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Old 04-04-2009, 07:54 PM
 
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Plano has good academics and a quality football program--mainly because of the way the district is structured so that the senior highs don't bleed off the good players into separate schools but feed them into specific ones...
magnet schools usually would not have football programs--like the Dallas School for the Arts...

and FYI--Krum has passed the bond money to build a football stadium and should have added football this year--as well as girls' volleyball...according to Wiki and there is football at Krum now according to the high school web site
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Old 04-04-2009, 08:27 PM
 
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Some schools in Texas with an athletic program will rank low and some will rank high. I'm not sure that is any different than saying 'some guys with blond hair are jerks and some with black hair are jerks.'

There are surely those schools that put more of their funding into 'football' and ignore academics BUT, in many small towns - football games are social gathering places and weekly entertainment. It's a major social event and good for the community. It can also really make a difference to kids to be involved in a well run program.

Bottom line - some school districts do it "right" and some don't. My personal experience (with a large school in a fairly large city) is that the parent booster clubs provided a lot of the funding for the teams and the high school band that played at the Friday night football games. It turnedd out to be a good thing for the students, the families and the school. This is not a "one size fits all deal" - most things aren't and should not be painted with a broad brush. A lot of good things can happen for kids with a well run athletic program but it's also possible that these programs can be abused.

The key here (as with many things) is parent involvement and diligent oversight.
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Old 04-04-2009, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Not dogging them for that -- somebody has to be the dummies, but I am seeing a connection here maybe?
You are basically dogging them for that. That comment was not really necessary whatsoever.
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Old 04-04-2009, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Texas
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Don't you live in Waco?O_o and they want people to think that. Remember A.J. Moore has the different acadamies like Academy of Information Technology, Finance, Engineering, Enviromental Technology,etc. It's a step up from the rest of the schools in WISD. I've heard they recently got a swim team. I graduated in 08, so not sure.
Nope, I don't live in Waco. I've never heard of A.J. Moore although it's probably a name I should know.
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Old 04-04-2009, 10:58 PM
 
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The last state champion was Allen High school which is a burb of Dallas. They have a very good school when it comes to academics. My local highschool won state around 5 years ago and it's about average. When I was in highschool (late 70's-early 80's) the inner city schools dominated sports because they were larger. Now the mega surburban schools dominate. The simple reason is the more students you have the more athletes you have to choose from. Southlake won a couple State championships and I would put there school in the top 1% of all Texas highschools when it comes to academics. A schools academics and sports power have nothing to do with each other.
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Old 04-05-2009, 07:40 AM
 
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my take is that larger schools -- like 5A--have large stadiums and turn those into marketing money-makers for their district since the smaller schools get booked there for post season play...while the 5A schools go to professional arenas like Cowboy Stadium for their playoff games...

better school districts want quality in all their programs and some of them can afford to fund across the board excellence...football rules in boys' programs in most districts, even smaller ones, because this is TX and football is THE sport...some areas also have very viable, marketable basketball or baseball or wrestling, gymnastics, or soccer but they don't have the stadium capacity or the band involvement/cheering that football does...so they do not bring as large a ROI to the district--most districts will tell you that any sports program (especially football) is a loss-leader...rarely brings in as much money as the district allocates for its yearly budget...and that budget is usually significant larger per participant than any academic dept but w/o sports most kids would not seen any redeeming value to public education because it is social for them--not academic...

your better districts do have good academic and athletic programs---in the DFW area of TX at least-- Southlake Carroll, Plano, HEB ISD, Allen, Grapevine-Colleyville have all had UIL champion football teams and get solid marks for their academics in a variety of ways...
if you don't like sports, then you have to choose another venue for education than public schools...
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Old 04-05-2009, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Anyone know of a list of, or particular Texas High Schools or ISDs without Football?
out of curiosity why would you want to find high schools without football< in Texas or anywhere else for that matter? Football is about as American as Apple pie..You don't have to be part of the program, but it is Texas for sure.

Nita
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Old 04-05-2009, 03:56 PM
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There was a story on this week's edition of Texas Country Reporter about two neighboring high schools: Apple Springs has (6-man) football and no band, the other, Hudson, has a band, but no football program. The coach and the band director got together and arranged for the Hudson band to perform at Apple Springs' football games.

TCR Episode Guide (It's show #1127, that aired the weekend of April 4th 2009)
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Old 04-05-2009, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Where I live.
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There was a story on this week's edition of Texas Country Reporter about two neighboring high schools: Apple Springs has (6-man) football and no band, the other, Hudson, has a band, but no football program. The coach and the band director got together and arranged for the Hudson band to perform at Apple Springs' football games.

TCR Episode Guide (It's show #1127, that aired the weekend of April 4th 2009)
Now that is creative thinking!

I am not a football fanatic, but I would like to see a 6-man game just once. Some of the smaller, more isolated WT towns have gone 6-man in the last few years, and Ft Davis went back down recently.
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Old 04-05-2009, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The South Texas ISD has no sports programs. I'm not sure they even have a band program. It's a magnet school district in deep South Texas and its schools are regularly ranked in the Top 10 nationwide.
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