Houston vs. Dallas (San Antonio, Austin, Fort Worth: sales, 2015, home sales)

[Trae713]

The urban area of Houston is smaller in land area and denser than DFW. The counties in SE Texas are larger, so if one tip of it has any form of urbanization or the right amount of commuters, it would be included. Urban areas are the best way to look at the actual urbanized cities imo.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...es_urban_areas

[TexasTallest]

The $1.1 billion Texas Department of Transportation project has fueled job creation as well as new homes, offices, mixed-used projects, hospitals and other development in previously inaccessible land across northwest Houston. As developers snatched up large parcels for projects big and small, the flurry of new development has created a new north submarket, dubbed the second Energy Corridor. Industry experts and observers have called the Grand Parkway a "gamechanger" for Houston real estate.

Grand Parkway extension spurs commercial and residential real estate growth across Houston - Houston Business Journal

"In addition, management expects to use this location to further capitalize on the deep pool of talented energy professionals that live and work in The Woodlands and the greater Houston area," the company said in a press release. "The greater access to talent will be critical as SMLP and Summit Investments execute on a multibillion-dollar build-out of energy infrastructure in the Northeast and the Rockies."

The Woodlands has become a sought-after area for energy companies, especially since Irving, Texas-based Exxon Mobil Corp. (NYSE: XOM) announced in 2011 it would build its corporate campus just south of The Woodlands.

Summit Midstream Partners moves HQ from Dallas to The Woodlands near Houston - Houston Business Journal

[tonyp709]

Originally Posted by Trae713

Wow, try using paragraphs.

Wow, you should become an English teacher/professor... I didn't know that I would be graded for writing a blog on City-Data.com. Do you prefer MLA or APA format? Goodness... smh

[tonyp709]

Originally Posted by stoneclaw

Your post was too long to quote in full but for one, Kingwood's annexation isn't recent, it was nearly 20 years ago. And also, I think Houston’s density is at 3662 ppsm. Where are you getting the 3623 ppsm figure from if Houston’s population is 2,195,914?

Although I wrote a lot, I still left out a few details in-order to keep my post from being even more exhaustive than it already is, which is the reason for confusion. The density of 6,623 for Houston is a 2014 estimate obtained from (Houston Population 2014 - World Population Review), and the total population of 2,195,914 is a 2013 estimate from the source (Houston (city) QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau). I couldn't find a recent source that would provide both the total population in addition to the density for 2014 estimates. Therefore, I opted to use projections from 2013 and 2014 to provide information as close and accurate as possible. I don't think that the difference of 39 ppsm is much of a difference worth pointing out, especially when all population data consist of mere estimates that change daily.

Touche in regards to Houston's annexation of Kingwood...

[Trae713]

Originally Posted by tonyp709

Wow, you should become an English teacher/professor... I didn't know that I would be graded for writing a blog on City-Data.com. Do you prefer MLA or APA format? Goodness... smh

No, you're not being graded, but you should smh at your own post. You just typed a giant block of text that I didn't even bother to read. All I said was try using paragraphs...smh. No need to take offense. Just a couple of presses on the space bar would make that post (and other lengthy ones you might make in the future) easier to read for everyone.

[tonyp709]

Originally Posted by dollaztx

I'm glad your taking many measurements into account tonyp and also that you try to be neutral. But please keep in mind that counties in North Texas are smaller than the ones around Houston. The 9 counties that form the Greater Houston MSA actually take up more land than DFW's 12 counties. 776 square miles more to be exact. Density seems to be a wash in regards to metro.

Land Area
Houston's Metro Land Area (MSA) - 10,062 sq mi
DFW Metro Land Area (MSA) - 9,286 sq mi

Population
Houston Metro - 6,177,035
DFW Metro - 6,426,214

Density
Houston Metro - 630.3 per sq mi
DFW Metro - 634.0 per sq mi

True regarding the Metro areas (I even pointed that out myself), but again, my post is in regards to Greater Dallas vs Greater Houston, not the entire multi-county metropolitan areas. I only provided the extra details to give Dallas a chance, and showed that the city of Houston is more populated than Dallas and Fort Worth comdined, despite having less square mileage (Houston 655 sqm/Dallas and Ft. Worth 682 sqm) city limits only. Also, since it wasn't fair for Dallas for me to only include it's surrounding suburbs in Dallas County since Harris County has more people and sq mileage; I added DWF next largest county Tarrant to the equation. Harris county (pop. 4,336,853 sqm 1,703.48) compared to both Dallas and Tarrant Counties (2014 pop. 4,408,331 sqm 1,734.38) is slightly smaller in both population and sq mileage. To make the comparison more fair for Houston/Harris county, I then added Houston's bordering neighbor, the city of Sugar Land (pop. 83,860 sqm 32.38) without adding the rest of Brazoria County to even the playing field. Results, Harris County plus the City of Sugar Land (pop. 4,420,713 sqm. 1735.86); Dallas County plus Tarrant County (pop. 4,408,387 sqm. 1,734.38). With just a 1.48 mile difference Houston/Harris County plus the City of Sugar Land has 12,382 more people than the combination of Dallas and Tarrant Counties in their entirety. Even if I factor in the Density of the entire DWF metroplex to help Dallas' argument for the 1.48 mile difference, Houston would still win by a landslide. Again, Houston is Bigger than Dallas, and Harris County (Houston and surrounding area) with the addition of Sugar Land alone is more populated and dense than the entire Counties of Dallas (Dallas and surrounding area) and Tarrant (Ft. Worth/Arlington and surrounding areas). I'm not saying that Houston is better, but it is a larger city. Dallas just have more populated surrounding counties than Houston.

[tonyp709]

Originally Posted by Trae713

No, you're not being graded, but you should smh at your own post. You just typed a giant block of text that I didn't even bother to read. All I said was try using paragraphs...smh. No need to take offense. Just a couple of presses on the space bar would make that post (and other lengthy ones you might make in the future) easier to read for everyone.

No offense taken... I just freely spoke/typed my opinion just as you did sir or mam'. My sarcasm, was meant to match your vague and sarcastic response/advice/opinion of what you feel I should do. Despite not being a people pleaser, I might consider your advice for future reference. However, will like to offer my own suggestion. If all you meant to say is "try using paragraphs", then you should leave out phrases such as "Wow", and state that it would be easier to read if paragraphs were used. SMH

[Trae713]

I said wow because it was a big block of text

[tonyp709]

Originally Posted by tonyp709

True regarding the Metro areas (I even pointed that out myself), but again, my post is in regards to Greater Dallas vs Greater Houston, not the entire multi-county metropolitan areas. I only provided the extra details to give Dallas a chance, and showed that the city of Houston is more populated than Dallas and Fort Worth comdined, despite having less square mileage (Houston 655 sqm/Dallas and Ft. Worth 682 sqm) city limits only. Also, since it wasn't fair for Dallas for me to only include it's surrounding suburbs in Dallas County since Harris County has more people and sq mileage; I added DWF next largest county Tarrant to the equation. Harris county (pop. 4,336,853 sqm 1,703.48) compared to both Dallas and Tarrant Counties (2014 pop. 4,408,331 sqm 1,734.38) is slightly smaller in both population and sq mileage. To make the comparison more fair for Houston/Harris county, I then added Houston's bordering neighbor, the city of Sugar Land (pop. 83,860 sqm 32.38) without adding the rest of Brazoria County to even the playing field. Results, Harris County plus the City of Sugar Land (pop. 4,420,713 sqm. 1735.86); Dallas County plus Tarrant County (pop. 4,408,387 sqm. 1,734.38). With just a 1.48 mile difference Houston/Harris County plus the City of Sugar Land has 12,382 more people than the combination of Dallas and Tarrant Counties in their entirety. Even if I factor in the Density of the entire DWF metroplex to help Dallas' argument for the 1.48 mile difference, Houston would still win by a landslide. Again, Houston is Bigger than Dallas, and Harris County (Houston and surrounding area) with the addition of Sugar Land alone is more populated and dense than the entire Counties of Dallas (Dallas and surrounding area) and Tarrant (Ft. Worth/Arlington and surrounding areas). I'm not saying that Houston is better, but it is a larger city. Dallas just have more populated surrounding counties than Houston.

Correction.. I should have added the average densities ppsm of Dallas, Fort Worth, and Arlington as opposed to the density of the entire metroplex to make up for the 1.48 mile difference. Either way, Dallas falls short by only adding 4692 people to it's combined population, which fails to bridge the gap of 12,382 more people in the Houston area. Even if I just took the highest density of any of the cities in the Dallas area without averaging, Dallas still loses. But hey, at least the Metro area in it's entirety is more populated, and you guys have the best Professional football stadium in the land.. ;-)

[tonyp709]

Originally Posted by Trae713

I said wow because it was a big block of text

And I didn't bother with trying to format my post with paragraphs because this tread does not allow indentations. I'll consider spacing every 3 to 5 sentences from here on. But hey, At least I used punctuation marks to separate my run on's. ;-)