Coronavirus in Texas (main thread) (West, Italy: to buy, restaurant, safer)

[As Above So Below...]

Originally Posted by biafra4life

Talk about Abbott and his boys turning this into a complete cluster for Texas. We had a relatively mild first wave...all it required was some common sense and patience, but no, greed pushed him to be one of the firs to reopen...now we all get to enjoy the results...notice how New York has NOT had a rebound in cases after they reopened? People will point out the mistakes the NY governor and NYC mayor made initially, but I give them a pass. They were the first to really take the brunt of this and had to learn through painful experience. And learn they did, waiting until the wave was over before reopening.

Texas had the luxury of seeing what was happening in NY, and STILL charged down the same path, falling into the same ditch. Learning absolutely nothing. Instead we had idiots like Dan Patrick talking about sacrificing the elderly to keep the economy going. Well he just might get his wish.

Thats a very extreme view.

With a closed economy and an incompetent government, people lose their jobs. When that happens, they cant pay their bills. When that happens, they get evicted. When that happens, many are homeless.

I liked Abbots approach and Im not fan of his otherwise. The mistake Abbott made was not mandating masks for the foreseeable future. Had that happened, we would not be in this mess even if we had reopened exactly when and how we did. Bear in mind California is in the same boat we are DESPITE being far more cautious about reopening.

If you need evidence for this, look at Taiwan. They never closed down and never had a problem with this virus.

[biafra4life]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

Thats a very extreme view.

With a closed economy and an incompetent government, people lose their jobs. When that happens, they cant pay their bills. When that happens, they get evicted. When that happens, many are homeless.

I liked Abbots approach and Im not fan of his otherwise. The mistake Abbott made was not mandating masks for the foreseeable future. Had that happened, we would not be in this mess even if we had reopened exactly when and how we did. Bear in mind California is in the same boat we are DESPITE being far more cautious about reopening.

If you need evidence for this, look at Taiwan. They never closed down and never had a problem with this virus.

The painful but clear fact of the matter is that to beat this, there must be short term pain. Everyone stay home as much as possible to let this thing run its course. That is exactly what New York did, and since they reopened their numbers have not spiked at all. Cold weather, dense population all that and still doing a million times better. Because again, they took their medicine and were able to burn the virus out.

Rushing to reopen here in Texas has ultimately benefited who exactly? All those businesses in Houston that were happy to reopen are going to now take a second kick in the groin as the disease sweeps through again. Good luck getting customers to come out now.

You mention Taiwan, but I suspect the type of measures that they and South Korea took to control the virus would never play here. I'm talking about physically tracking the whereabouts of positive cases through their phones to ensure they were not breaking quarantine. Can you imagine Americans going for that?

California is a strange case. Like you, I heard about the shutdowns ordered by the governor, but I have a brother who lives in the Santa Monica area. He said that people were still out and about, congregating on beaches for example. Many followed the health guidelines, but there were plenty who did not. And I'm talking about back in April and May here. So in a way, it's not completely surprising that their numbers are up as well. But yeah I'm not sure of the complete story there.

[KathrynAragon]

Originally Posted by txbullsfan

According to Abbott, elective surgeries are now on hold because of our states surge in positive diagnosises and hospitalization rates. Those suffering with painful conditions that require surgery but are not emergency situations will now have to suffer longer or travel out of state. A shame really because if we just would have followed the prescription for its entire duration like some other states, this could have likely been avoided. Unfortunately, now a haymaker may be coming for our states patients, small businesses and our economy as we start to close up shop again

I believe they are only on hold in four or five counties out of our 254 counties.

[KathrynAragon]

Originally Posted by biafra4life

Going to a restaurant or bar, or basically any place where you would need your mouth open regularly, always seemed like stupid idea if you needed to keep a mask on.

Well, I agree that in an area with a significant transmission rate, it would seem like a stupid idea. Thankfully we were in Lindale, in Smith County, which has a very low transmission rate and hasn't had a death in over a month (only has 4 total).

My point is - if you're going to wear a mask, wear it properly - otherwise it doesn't accomplish the mission.

[txbullsfan]

While not the whole state of Texas yet, the counties that are on pause for elective surgeries and for further opening are all of Texas's major cities - Dallas, Houston, San Antonio and Austin. Our cities is where a significant portion of our population resides so this will detrimentaly affect many small businesses, hospitals, jobs, the economy and people in the state of Texas. Also, people in small town rural Texas often have to travel to a Texas city for a job or significant elective surgery and will now have to travel elsewhere or further wait.

[KathrynAragon]

Originally Posted by txbullsfan

While not the whole state of Texas yet, the counties that are on pause for elective surgeries and for further opening are all of Texas's major cities - Dallas, Houston, San Antonio and Austin. Our cities is where a significant portion of our population resides so this will detrimentaly affect many small businesses, hospitals, jobs, the economy and people in the state of Texas. Also, people in small town rural Texas often have to travel to a Texas city for a job or significant elective surgery and will now have to travel elsewhere or further wait.

Well, there are 4 counties "on pause" as you say, for elective surgeries, out of 254 counties. I just want to point out that there are 9 counties in the Houston metro area, 8 counties in the San Antonio metro area, 13 counties in the DFW metro area, and 5 counties in the Austin metro area.

Also, twice as many US residents live in suburban areas vs urban and rural areas. And there are 25 metro areas in Texas, and 17 of those 25 have over 200,000 in population. Only 5 have over 2,000,000 in population. I'm not saying that those areas don't have more medical options but I'm just trying to point out that there are lots of medical options and resources throughout the state of Texas.

[StealthRabbit]

Texas continues to do great!

FIRST place again yesterday.
25 June 2020
Texas 137,152(total) +5,960(new in a single day)

As mentioned by officials:
"This is NOT because of additional testing, this is due to Community Spread!"

6.4% tested, only 93.6% to go.

[move4ward]

Pop-up hospitals are in the works for Travis and Harris counties. Dallas county still has bed capacity, a field hospital is not being looked at it yet.


Some Texas cities revive plans to add hospital bed capacity at convention centers if coronavirus cases climb

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06...source=twitter

Travis County

In Travis County, authorities have been quietly recruiting dozens of volunteer doctors and nurses to staff a possible 100-bed hospital in the Austin Convention Center. The site is not “currently functioning” but volunteers were given an estimated start date of mid-July, according to June emails sent to a member of the state’s disaster volunteer force and obtained by The Texas Tribune.

“Staff will provide hands-on care to COVID + patients with personal protective equipment (PPE) provided. The setting will be similar to a Medical-Surgical Unit with the capability of treating critical care patients," the email says.

Harris County

Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo told The Tribune that an overflow facility in NRG Park could be fully activated in 72 hours and that staff and materials for the site are on standby. The multi-million dollar facility was set up then taken down in April, without ever receiving patients.

“Any day that we don't use that shelter is a good day. If we end up using it we would be in the type of situation where we're seeing people in the hallways of hospitals and those shelter beds are by no means sustainable long term beds,” she said.

Dallas County

In Dallas, Johnson said Thursday a pop-up hospital in the convention center would not be set up because a local hospital council and the county expects medical facilities can handle an influx of patients. Plans for the overflow facility were first discussed this spring but sputtered to a halt in April due to lack of need.

[As Above So Below...]

Some good news finally:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...vaccine-makers

[Redlionjr]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

Thats a very extreme view.

With a closed economy and an incompetent government, people lose their jobs. When that happens, they cant pay their bills. When that happens, they get evicted. When that happens, many are homeless.

I liked Abbots approach and Im not fan of his otherwise. The mistake Abbott made was not mandating masks for the foreseeable future. Had that happened, we would not be in this mess even if we had reopened exactly when and how we did. Bear in mind California is in the same boat we are DESPITE being far more cautious about reopening.

If you need evidence for this, look at Taiwan. They never closed down and never had a problem with this virus.

Yet here we are, bars will close at noon, restaurants will reduce capacity at 50% and he hasn’t completely took shutting down the state off the table if(when) things get worst.

What’s the point of opening back up only to shut down businesses again when it was common sense that cases would go up once you reopen?

Oh because if Americans would just follow guidelines. That ain’t happening and people gotta be naive if they think majority of Americans will follow some guidelines. Lol