Texas being excluded from the South (Houston, Dallas: theater, prices, safety)

[ScoPro]

Originally Posted by KathrynAragon

If you look at a map of the US,Texas is dead center south. (I didn't say by the way, that Texas is a southeastern state.)


Texas is a southern state. People can deny it all they want but it won't change that fact. I am done here. Fight amongst yourselves. Or don't. Say Texas isn't southern all you want. Or say that it is. It won't change a thing. Have at it.

That’s what I said.

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by KathrynAragon

If you look at a map of the US,Texas is dead center south. (I didn't say by the way, that Texas is a southeastern state.)
Texas is a southern state. People can deny it all they want but it won't change that fact. I am done here. Fight amongst yourselves. Or don't. Say Texas isn't southern all you want. Or say that it is. It won't change a thing. Have at it.

Ok, then explain why so many people say that only East Texas is part of The South

[ScoPro]

Some of us are including cultural with the geographic aspect.

[Redlionjr]

Originally Posted by Dopo

This topic is very annoying because you have to define "The South"

Historical South? Confederacy map,
For whatever reason a lot of are stuck with that idea, even though the confederacy only lasted 4 years and disappeared 156 years ago.
Kentucky, West Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, Missouri and Oklahoma would be removed.

Cultural South? Similar to above but Texas would be excluded because of the huge influx of people from all over the World that moved to Texas the last few decades.

Geographical South? Texas could be included, but then Virginia and West Virginia would be counted as part of the North
Richmond, Virginia is the same distance from Toronto, Canada than it is from Jacksonville, Florida.


In my opinion, somebody needs to make a decision (don't know where)
and divide the country into logical regions
you have to be an idiot to think that Virginia and Texas are in the same region
Austin, Texas is closer to Los Angeles than it is to Richmond, Virginia.

The confederacy lasted 4 years but Texas was a slave state and also enacted Jim Crow laws like the rest of the south. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck than its probably a duck.

Geographically Virginia is below the Mason-Dixon Line so…

Houston and Dallas is closer to Richmond,VA than Los Angeles sooooo…plus lots of Austinites like to pride themselves of not really being “Texas”.

[NewTexico76]

I think Texas is generally in the South, but there is no one "South," especially now. Florida is even more torn.

I also think there is a sharpening divide between the "East Coast" of the South (the emerging megalopolis from Northern Virginia to Atlanta) and the western South, such as Alabama, Mississippi. The two are really becoming as different as the northeast East Coast and Appalachia/Rust Belt areas.

Texas might have more in common with North Carolina and Georgia than its more immediate Southern neighbors.

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by Redlionjr

The confederacy lasted 4 years but Texas was a slave state and also enacted Jim Crow laws like the rest of the south. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck than its probably a duck.

That happened 150 years ago, when Texas had less than 1 million people
Texas is completely different today
A state that in the next few years is going to be majority Hispanic, so it will definitely will have a stronger Mexican influence than a southern influence

[supfromthesite]

Originally Posted by NewTexico76

I think Texas is generally in the South, but there is no one "South," especially now. Florida is even more torn.

I also think there is a sharpening divide between the "East Coast" of the South (the emerging megalopolis from Northern Virginia to Atlanta) and the western South, such as Alabama, Mississippi. The two are really becoming as different as the northeast East Coast and Appalachia/Rust Belt areas.

Texas might have more in common with North Carolina and Georgia than its more immediate Southern neighbors.

This is a great point.

[Nuclear Bear]

Originally Posted by NewTexico76

I think Texas is generally in the South, but there is no one "South," especially now. Florida is even more torn.

I also think there is a sharpening divide between the "East Coast" of the South (the emerging megalopolis from Northern Virginia to Atlanta) and the western South, such as Alabama, Mississippi. The two are really becoming as different as the northeast East Coast and Appalachia/Rust Belt areas.

Texas might have more in common with North Carolina and Georgia than its more immediate Southern neighbors.

I once spent an entire summer working in Macon, Georgia and it was a complete culture shock to someone that had spent most of their life in Texas.

Atlanta is similar to Dallas and Houston.....but Georgia was not that similar to Texas. Neither was Tennessee. My company rotated us between Nashville, Atlanta, and Macon.

Commonalities between Texas and the Southern states include:
-Good Manners
-Republican voting tendencies with its Anglo residents
-lots of overweight people

There are also a lot of things that are much different the further South and East you get away from Texas. The people look and sound different.

People in Memphis or Nashville do NOT look like people from Dallas, Houston, Austin or San Antonio.

[MaskedRacer]

Bottom line though...if you have a left wing ideology and support politicians like Biden, Newsome, and Witmer. You are not welcome to move and live in Texas. Stay in California and New York we beg you.

[jcp123]

Originally Posted by MaskedRacer

Bottom line though...if you have a left wing ideology and support politicians like Biden, Newsome, and Witmer. You are not welcome to move and live in Texas. Stay in California and New York we beg you.

That’s a sliver of the whole conversation going on here.