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Old 08-02-2023, 04:56 AM
 
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Ya, I prefer women's soccer & hardly watch the mens world cup. Less flopping with the women. Just seems easier to watch.
I like both the women's and men's games. They are very different, but both super exciting to watch. I think the men's game has developed to be a more physical game, with speed and strength being the main force behind the game. The women's game has developed depending more on the talent on the field. this is why the USA's once dominant time has passed. The talent level separating them from most of the other teams simply is not there. Talent is far more spread out, creating more teams with the potential for great play. Spain and England remain my favorites in this one, with France just behind and the US somewhere in that next group. Sadly the US looks like its Sweden, who always have their number, followed by Spain. That is two difficult games to get through. I'll be over there soon and do not know what we will be able to see. I suspect the US will be gone buy the time I arrive. But no matter who is playing, it will be GREAT games with incredibly skilled athletes playing this amazing game.
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Old 08-02-2023, 08:39 AM
 
Location: ottawa, ontario, canada
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interesting that Italy, Brazil and Argentina who have produced some of the best men's teams and individual players in the history of the sport, have all failed to progress. I suppose domestically they have not invested in women's football the way other countries have
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Old 08-02-2023, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Wylie, Texas
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interesting that Italy, Brazil and Argentina who have produced some of the best men's teams and individual players in the history of the sport, have all failed to progress. I suppose domestically they have not invested in women's football the way other countries have
And that's why you have to take the success of the US women with a grain of salt. They have been the best essentially by default. Europe and South America have ignored women's soccer up until very recently, so the fact the American girls were getting tons of support via the NCAA gave them the leg up. That has now started to change particularly in Europe with all the big soccer clubs now establishing women's teams and giving them the same resources, training and support that their mens teams get. While I dont think the US Women will disappear completely, but look for them to fall to a middle of the pack type team in the next ten years.
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Old 08-02-2023, 09:49 AM
 
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interesting that Italy, Brazil and Argentina who have produced some of the best men's teams and individual players in the history of the sport, have all failed to progress. I suppose domestically they have not invested in women's football the way other countries have
I cannot speak for Italy as I have not really read about them, but there is significant documentation of the lack of investment by, and the disparate treatment between the men and women's programs by, the Brazil and Argentine federations. I mean things like the women's teams do not get a trainer for non-game activities, like training sessions, or not getting fields, or having to pay for an make their own travel arrangements, and no charter flights. While it has improved, in part because of all the stuff people complain about the USWNT for doing in public, it still is an issue.
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Old 08-03-2023, 06:05 AM
 
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interesting that Italy, Brazil and Argentina who have produced some of the best men's teams and individual players in the history of the sport, have all failed to progress. I suppose domestically they have not invested in women's football the way other countries have
now Germany have gone possibly biggest upset ever?
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Old 08-03-2023, 09:12 AM
 
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now Germany have gone possibly biggest upset ever?
Its crazy. One of the best teams in the world, certainly top 3.
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Old 08-03-2023, 10:09 AM
 
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All opening up for the USA or dare I say, England?
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Old 08-03-2023, 10:48 AM
 
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All opening up for the USA or dare I say, England?
i have stopped making predictions for this tournament
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Old 08-03-2023, 11:07 AM
 
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All opening up for the USA or dare I say, England?
I do not think we will get past sweden, let alone Spain in the round of 8. I think its either England and one of those two in the final.

But anything can happen.
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Old 08-03-2023, 04:45 PM
 
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interesting that Italy, Brazil and Argentina who have produced some of the best men's teams and individual players in the history of the sport, have all failed to progress. I suppose domestically they have not invested in women's football the way other countries have
This exactly, womens football has only really been a 'thing' is a few countries until more recently, funnily enough it been a 'thing' in countries that don't usually have a strong mens football culture which is odd - ie Japan, Australia, US etc. In Europe there has been a bit of a 'thing' for womens football in Scandinavia and Germany but not so much the 'other' European powers in mens football.

Things are changing a bit though, for example womens football is starting to take off (finally) in England, it's still only been a 'thing' here for a short while, Manchester United has only had a womens team since 2018! The Euro's were a 'spark' for the game here. I also think its starting to take off in 'other' new European countries like Spain and Italy.

The traditional powers of womens football have not gotten worse, its just that as the game takes off more in other countries, particularly those who have a strong culture in the mens game competition is going to get an awful lot tougher.

We haven't even mentioned South America yet but I believe its starting to 'grow' there too. I expect some European and South American teams to start winning more global competitions in the future, though not exclusively European and South American like it is in the mens game.
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