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Old 01-03-2023, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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What is the financial incentive to carry MLS on broadcast television? It is 45 minute halves with no commercials. Super Bowl 30 second advertising slots sell for $6.5 million. Sunday Night Football slots are $850k.
There isn't a super strong financial incentive yet to carry MLS on broadcast television, but the audience is growing. Instead of buying TV advertising slots, companies can pay to have their name on a team's jersey. Obviously, the bigger the audience gets, the more money they can charge to add a name on a jersey.

I think NFL audiences will decline in the coming decades because less young people are playing the game because of the risk of injuries. I think soccer can fill the void.
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Old 06-04-2023, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Modified limited hangout
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What’s the population of Costa Rica? Not a trick question. 5 million. The United States is 330 million. If soccer were an important sport in the US, the USMNT would be stuffed full of world class players. There’s no money in it. An entry level NBA ($925k) or MLB ($700k) player is making approaching $1 million. An entry level MLS player is waiting tables to make ends meet. The reason is television money. 45 minute halves with no commercial breaks doesn’t generate enough revenue for network television so soccer will always be an afterthought. In hockey, it used to be like that. The 1980 Lake Placid hockey games and miracle on ice didn’t have commercial breaks. The US feed would cut away from the middle of games for commercial breaks. The Canadian feed didn’t.

Soccer will never be the dominant spectator sport in the US because the major networks have no interest. There’s not enough advertising revenue in it.
The networks show NASCAR, which doesn't have frequent convenient commercial break times like timeouts (basketball), middle/end of inning (baseball), or turnover on downs (football).

They will go to break during a caution, the end of a "stage", or during a long green flag run when it appears there won't be much change of position at the front.

NASCAR is similar to soccer in that the cars are covered with sponsor ads.

Maybe soccer players should lose numbers on the back of the jersey and put another ad back there.
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Old 06-16-2023, 11:41 AM
 
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Yesterday US men's team beat Mexico in Vegas. Even tho it was in Nevada it was effectively a home game for Mexico. And several outlets reported the majority pro-Mexico crowd chanted "homophobic" chants aimed at the American goalie.
Outkick.com has clips of multiple fights amongst Mexican fans, there is footage of Mexican fans pelting players with bottles.. etc.

I went to a US-Brasil game at the Rose Bowl years ago and it was a similar demographic situation. American fans were heavily outnumbered by Brasil fans. It's a bad feeling being outnumbered on your home turf. And I do think this is a turn-off for potential American soccer fans. They don't have the same (stupid) passion for the sport as Latin/South American fan(atics).
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Old 06-16-2023, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Union City, NJ
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Yesterday US men's team beat Mexico in Vegas. Even tho it was in Nevada it was effectively a home game for Mexico. And several outlets reported the majority pro-Mexico crowd chanted "homophobic" chants aimed at the American goalie.
Outkick.com has clips of multiple fights amongst Mexican fans, there is footage of Mexican fans pelting players with bottles.. etc.

I went to a US-Brasil game at the Rose Bowl years ago and it was a similar demographic situation. American fans were heavily outnumbered by Brasil fans. It's a bad feeling being outnumbered on your home turf. And I do think this is a turn-off for potential American soccer fans. They don't have the same (stupid) passion for the sport as Latin/South American fan(atics).
Mexican soccer culture is absolutely classless and it is only going to get worse as the US continues to widen the gap between the two teams in terms of talent. They are very sore losers - both players and fans.
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Old 06-20-2023, 01:08 PM
 
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One of the biggest problems with soccer in America is there aren't enough free public places for kids to play soccer on their own. If pickup games of soccer become popular for young people in the U.S., then I think MLS will explode in popularity.
Not true. They can use American Football fields. In NNJ, where I grew up. Every Borough had at least one Football Field/Track Field. And you can play soccer over smaller areas. It is called Futsal. It is about the size of a basketball court. You can go smaller with fewer players all the way down to 1v1. This can be done in the backyards of houses. It is why soccer is the most popular sport in the world. You can start a game anywhere any time. You just need the ball.
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Old 06-20-2023, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Mexican soccer culture is absolutely classless and it is only going to get worse as the US continues to widen the gap between the two teams in terms of talent. They are very sore losers - both players and fans.
They really need to turn that anger inward; they’re the 10th most populous country in the world with football as their #1 sport. It’s equivalent to Russia being bad at hockey or Japan at baseball…how do they consistently fail to develop players who can prosper internationally?
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Old 06-20-2023, 06:34 PM
 
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They really need to turn that anger inward; they’re the 10th most populous country in the world with football as their #1 sport. It’s equivalent to Russia being bad at hockey or Japan at baseball…how do they consistently fail to develop players who can prosper internationally?
If they make too much money, the Cartels, or smaller gangs will kidnap family for ransom.
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Old 06-20-2023, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Union City, NJ
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The problem with Mexico is that the players in Liga MX make too much money. The owners have a lot of money and retain domestic talent rather than letting it go to get better in the top 7ish leagues in Europe. That is one of the things that MLS has done extremely well over the last half decade or so. They are sending academy products and guys who play only a year or two in MLS abroad (think Tyler Adams). It is paying dividends for the USMNT and will continue to do so from here on out now that the academies are well established and funded. Guys like Sebastian Cordova, Carlos Rodriguez, Orbelin Pineda, Jesus Gallardo, Erick Sanchez, and the list goes on should all have been in Europe at some point in their careers, yet they stagnated in Liga MX.
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Old 06-21-2023, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Sunnybrook Farm
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What is this ”lack of interest in the US in soccer”?

Have you ever BEEN to the US? Have you ever driven past a suburban playing field or city park on a Saturday morning?

Nothing but hundreds and hundreds of kids playing soccer, from age 6 to 66.

Just because Americans aren't interested in sitting on their butts in front of the TeeVee eating chips and watching other people getting paid to play soccer, doesn't mean there's a lack of interest. What we're doing, is we're PLAYING the damn thing!
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Old 06-21-2023, 06:11 AM
 
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The networks show NASCAR, which doesn't have frequent convenient commercial break times like timeouts (basketball), middle/end of inning (baseball), or turnover on downs (football).

They will go to break during a caution, the end of a "stage", or during a long green flag run when it appears there won't be much change of position at the front.

NASCAR is similar to soccer in that the cars are covered with sponsor ads.

Maybe soccer players should lose numbers on the back of the jersey and put another ad back there.
Google says the last Daytona 500 had 14 commercial breaks and 36.5 minutes of commercials under green. I presume any yellow is an immediate commercial break so you’re getting close to an hour of commercials in a 3 1/2 hour event.
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