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This thread is so 1997. MLS is the 3rd best attended sports league in America already. And we must add big interest in the English Premier League and other world leagues.
The anti-Americanism thing is becoming a thing of the past. I've attended soccer matches in many countries and people just accept me as another fan (decades ago it was different, great arrogance especially in Britain). Besides, it's sports, sports-fans everywhere slam each other based on the teams they support, I guess sports fandom is not for babies.
Let it go dude, there's room for plenty of sports to be viable in America especially.
MLS does around 7% of NFL revenue, 10% of the revenue of MLB, 12% of the NBA, and 25% of the NHL. The EPL revenue is similar to NBA revenue. The name of the content game is eyeballs watching televised sporting events. The NFL is wildly dominant which is why they have the huge revenue and team valuation despite only playing a 17 game schedule.
MLS does around 7% of NFL revenue, 10% of the revenue of MLB, 12% of the NBA, and 25% of the NHL. The EPL revenue is similar to NBA revenue. The name of the content game is eyeballs watching televised sporting events. The NFL is wildly dominant which is why they have the huge revenue and team valuation despite only playing a 17 game schedule.
i do not get obsesion of nfl i mean they are inflated numbers i mean their biggest game is watched by 100 million people of that 50 % are not even fans of sport and are not buying merchandize or anything. sport is inflated and hyped up while not even 1/3 of country is watching it on every sunday
i do not get obsesion of nfl i mean they are inflated numbers i mean their biggest game is watched by 100 million people of that 50 % are not even fans of sport and are not buying merchandize or anything. sport is inflated and hyped up while not even 1/3 of country is watching it on every sunday
The NFL numbers aren’t inflated. The television contracts are well known and the revenue from those contracts is shared among all 32 teams. Between salary caps, the draft, free agency, and a schedule tweaked to give strong teams slightly tougher schedules than weak teams, all 32 teams are competitive. You don’t have the situation where the top EPL, Spanish, Italian, PSG, and Bayern teams win every year by buying the absolute best players. A team like Watford or Norwich is on even financial footing with the Man City and Man U of the league.
MLB at least has a draft and penalties for exceeding spending caps. You can play Money Ball in Oakland and have competitive teams. Tampa is excellent at drafting players and wins despite being in a small market.
I picked Liverpool because I’m a life-long Red Sox fan and the Red Sox own the team. I kind of feel like a bandwagon Yankees fan from their golden years when they spent their way to championships every year. Properly, I should keep to the agony of being a Blackburn Rovers fan since my paternal grandparents are from there and my father’s uncle and first cousin were both long time council members and served their year as mayor. But it’s more fun to watch Liverpool play Benfica and Manchester City twice in less than a week with the big payroll team stuffed full of world class players.
I’ve written here a number of times that the endless commercials have pushed me away from US sports. I glance at scores for the teams I’ve always followed but I only watch my NFL team. I saw one Red Sox game last year until the playoffs. I’ve watched a few minutes of Celtics. I haven’t seen Bruins at all. I watched my college team lose in the first round of the NCAA tournament and stopped watching. The commercials are unbearable.
I’ve written here a number of times that the endless commercials have pushed me away from US sports. I glance at scores for the teams I’ve always followed but I only watch my NFL team. I saw one Red Sox game last year until the playoffs. I’ve watched a few minutes of Celtics. I haven’t seen Bruins at all. I watched my college team lose in the first round of the NCAA tournament and stopped watching. The commercials are unbearable.
The bolded is a huge endorsement for soccer, part of why it's become my #1. I love being able to focus for 45 minutes, take a short halftime break and back for another 45. Only 2 hours of my day is committed.
With the constant stoppages in the NFL (they would stop even if there were no ads), the play loses my interest almost every time and 3-4 hour games can seem like a marathon. DVR helps but then you aren't watching live to discuss with a friend.
Back to the thread, "lack of interest in the sport (soccer)" just means someone's head is buried in the sand.
The bolded is a huge endorsement for soccer, part of why it's become my #1. I love being able to focus for 45 minutes, take a short halftime break and back for another 45. Only 2 hours of my day is committed.
With the constant stoppages in the NFL (they would stop even if there were no ads), the play loses my interest almost every time and 3-4 hour games can seem like a marathon. DVR helps but then you aren't watching live to discuss with a friend.
Back to the thread, "lack of interest in the sport (soccer)" just means someone's head is buried in the sand.
I fully agree. The amount of stoppages in the NFL game has become utterly tedious and I've lost interest in most of the games.
Back to the thread, "lack of interest in the sport (soccer)" just means someone's head is buried in the sand.
Other than a few USMNT and USWNT matches and a bit of NBC coverage of the EPL, soccer doesn't get a heck of a lot of broadcast time in the United States. It's hard to win over eyeballs when you can't see the epic global competitions like Champions League without paying for a streaming service.
I had no idea until the Red Sox bought Liverpool and I could stream all their matches on NBS Sports Network. Soccer was mediocre New England Revolution matches. My last season tickets were 2017 when their "stars" were players like Lee Nguyen and Diego Fagundez. At this point, I find it really hard to watch MLS because the level of play is so poor.
The NFL numbers aren’t inflated. The television contracts are well known and the revenue from those contracts is shared among all 32 teams. Between salary caps, the draft, free agency, and a schedule tweaked to give strong teams slightly tougher schedules than weak teams, all 32 teams are competitive. You don’t have the situation where the top EPL, Spanish, Italian, PSG, and Bayern teams win every year by buying the absolute best players. A team like Watford or Norwich is on even financial footing with the Man City and Man U of the league.
MLB at least has a draft and penalties for exceeding spending caps. You can play Money Ball in Oakland and have competitive teams. Tampa is excellent at drafting players and wins despite being in a small market.
I picked Liverpool because I’m a life-long Red Sox fan and the Red Sox own the team. I kind of feel like a bandwagon Yankees fan from their golden years when they spent their way to championships every year. Properly, I should keep to the agony of being a Blackburn Rovers fan since my paternal grandparents are from there and my father’s uncle and first cousin were both long time council members and served their year as mayor. But it’s more fun to watch Liverpool play Benfica and Manchester City twice in less than a week with the big payroll team stuffed full of world class players.
I’ve written here a number of times that the endless commercials have pushed me away from US sports. I glance at scores for the teams I’ve always followed but I only watch my NFL team. I saw one Red Sox game last year until the playoffs. I’ve watched a few minutes of Celtics. I haven’t seen Bruins at all. I watched my college team lose in the first round of the NCAA tournament and stopped watching. The commercials are unbearable.
and all that parrity and nobody cares about nfl around the world because around the world people see with different point of view and just do not understand why people like sport that stop plays more then ball is in play. i mean it is boring sport no matter how much parity it has because it is manufactured parity. you have to give ball away after 3 downs not untill other team fair and square take it from you and all the specialty players fat unatletic or ped players. to rest of the world all the parity and money and still people are not interested and real football very less parity but when you have cindarelas it has more joy then all the nfl parity and different winers will ever have
and all that parrity and nobody cares about nfl around the world because around the world people see with different point of view and just do not understand why people like sport that stop plays more then ball is in play. i mean it is boring sport no matter how much parity it has because it is manufactured parity. you have to give ball away after 3 downs not untill other team fair and square take it from you and all the specialty players fat unatletic or ped players. to rest of the world all the parity and money and still people are not interested and real football very less parity but when you have cindarelas it has more joy then all the nfl parity and different winers will ever have
I hate to bring American football in the discussion but look at it like this; it's a game of set plays. When you have a game of set plays, you're going to get stoppages even without the unnecessary useless ads. Imagine soccer being set plays throughout the game. It wouldn't sit well with people who like free flowing sports. This is why the world tolerates basketball and hockey more than baseball and American football. Also, you have a set amount of time to advance the ball and if you fail, you have to give it up. I see zero problem with that. It's not easy to move the ball 10 yards in three plays especially if that first play is a negative play or a minimal gain. You had your chance. Now you have to give it up or if close enough, at least get something out of it by opting for a field goal.
I do understand that this turns most of the world off from it but I think most people dislike what they do not understand. IMO, I think the ads are more of a turnoff but I still say American football will never take off worldwide. The NFL would like it to but it is easily the most disliked American sport outside of America and will remain so. I think another big turnoff from the world regarding American football is it is to specialist that you slightly noted on. Everyone in every sport plays some sort of defense and offense. This isn't the case in American football thus the reason people point out the players up front and remark on them being lazy and overweight.
Other than a few USMNT and USWNT matches and a bit of NBC coverage of the EPL, soccer doesn't get a heck of a lot of broadcast time in the United States. It's hard to win over eyeballs when you can't see the epic global competitions like Champions League without paying for a streaming service.
I had no idea until the Red Sox bought Liverpool and I could stream all their matches on NBS Sports Network. Soccer was mediocre New England Revolution matches. My last season tickets were 2017 when their "stars" were players like Lee Nguyen and Diego Fagundez. At this point, I find it really hard to watch MLS because the level of play is so poor.
Yeah I made this point on twitter. I was so glad that ESPN plus didn't get EPL. At least some EPL games are broadcasted on NBC sometimes. I think even CBS had a Serie A game a couple weeks ago on the regular CBS channel. I don't ever think you will see the worldwide leader put on a league game. At least I have not seen it yet. ESPN doesn't really care for sports that don't bring in eyeballs. You will see a softball game on before any soccer match. I wonder if CBS will play the UCL final on their big network. It will be interesting to see.
An ESPN announcer calling a College football game was noticeably upset that their game went over its allotted time and was smug to the fans that were waiting to see the US play in a world cup qualifier back in the Fall saying don't worry, you'll get your little soccer game in a minute right there on TV. That told me that ESPN has no business playing this sport but money talks.
This is an opinion/perspective thread, there is no right or wrong answer, I am not even gonna care if they're realistic answers or not
Now why I think this might be this the case
Well let's see, everytime America tries to prove itself, is never enough for the elitist fans that particularly live in Europe or SA as sad as it is
The US is never really given a fair chance at all, rampant anti Americanism aside, I get that nationalism is a huge part of international football culture, I get that, but I get the impression some people really don't want to see America succedd in the international football/soccer scene, which is why they always paint the US always as the "away" team in most matchups
So why would Americans get invested in a game full of egotistical pricks that care more about selling controversy and getting all engaged in outrage culture than playing fairly?
Last but not least, the US already had an established sports culture way before the globalization of the sport even began waves around the mid half of the 20th century, making Americans care too much about soccer/football would probably lead to a serious burnout, is best that the enthusiasm is really reserved for serious and special ocassions I think.
Plus the promotion of soccer being a global game is too pretentious, if the favoritism always goes to European or South American teams, it is far from being a true global sport.
On the other hands there are countries with a far less serious soccer culture than the US including pretty much the rest of the Anglosphere besides the UK(in particular England), Japan, Venezuela, Costa Rica, Honduras, India, **** I would even argue the Scandinavian region is another one of them cultures without serious passion for soccer
I doubt the US would ever encounter any Anti-Americanism, as it has it's own domestic leagues and in terms of international football with the exception of the World Cup Finals every four years, the US mainly plays countries from The Confederation of North, Central America and Caribbean Association Football.
The World Cup is hardly racist, and in terms of club level football, other than the occasional pre-season friendly clubs from Europe and the US never meet.
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