04-17-2008, 07:16 AM
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Hi Everybody,
I'm currently moving to the seattle area as i got a offer from MS. ( Sounds cliche in this forum i guess
). Now as the title suggests, i'm in a big dilemma as to where to live. I have read all the threads in this forum about this issue and it made me even more confused regarding what to chose. Hence i'm posting this thread to get answer to my specific situation. So here it goes.
My situation
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I'm 23 yr old, fresh out of gradaute school, outgoing and social guy. Since i'm going to work for MS, it makes sense to stay in redmond as its close to work, and also commute on 520 is pain in the A**. But from what i heard from friends working in MS, redmond is not as hip and happening as Bellevue. And also bellevue is more beautuiful, greener, has great social life ( night life) and also a lil more expensive than redmond. Since i'm a college student, and single and in early 20's, being in a more social place is very imp.
My Concerns/Questions
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1. Is it better to stay in redmond at walking distance from MS, or stay in Bellevue which is 20 mins by bus to MS. ( i dont have a car as yet.!) if rent at both the places is same.!
2. Long term wise, is staying in Bellevue more alluring than in Redmond, wrt to things to do on weekends, and when friends come over etc etc.!
3. I'm assuming most of the residents in both Bellevue ad redmond are MS employees, and hence the ridiculously high rent prices ( 1200 - 1500$ PM). So what do you guys think is a reasonable rent for a 2 bed 2 bath apt in both these areas?
Do reply asap, since i need to make my decision by end of this week
04-17-2008, 07:53 AM
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My husband and I are relocating to Seattle through MS as well. We have a rental specialist assigned through the company who is going to take us on a tour of rental properties and give us advice on areas, prices, etc.
04-17-2008, 08:40 AM
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Bellevue has night life?
04-17-2008, 09:26 AM
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I agree with Jenbar. Remember, Microsoft is not located in downtown Redmond. Sure, downtown Redmond isn't as big or will have much less nightlife than downtown Bellevue. But the Campus itself is located more in the Overlake area and the Overlake area straddles the Bellevue/Redmond line ...both downtown areas are several miles away. Also keep in mind that the Microsoft campus and its satellite areas around the main campus are only blocks from the Bellevue city limits. As Jen says, the two cities run together.
If you want to be within walking distance from the campus, you'll probably want to be in the Overlake area or the Crossroads area of Bellevue. It's probably acceptable for ammenities but yes, downtown Bellevue will have a bit more to do as far as nightlife is concerned. Overlake, along with the Crossroads area is becoming more trendy as time passes but still not an entertainment mecca.
Like Jen says, take the bus to Seattle for a more variety of entertainment and nightlife (or ride with friends in a car).
04-17-2008, 09:48 AM
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Microsoft also has "The Connector", their own private free shuttle vans for employees, and run from Bellevue/Issaquah/ Seattle, and points north. They've got 5 routes now and are expanding to 11.
04-17-2008, 10:54 AM
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1. Is it better to stay in redmond at walking distance from MS, or stay in Bellevue which is 20 mins by bus to MS. ( i dont have a car as yet.!) if rent at both the places is same.!
1. They're both the same. I live in one of them, two minutes' walk from the other, less than a mile from the main MS campus. The towns are identical. Walking to work or taking a bus ride -- it doesn't matter. It's all good. Employers here pay for the bus pass. You'll need it anyway to go grocery shopping, to go anywhere without a car.
2. There's nothing "alluring" about either Redmond or Bellevue. Both are quiet, tree-filled suburban residential areas.
What is a "wrt"?
No matter where you live, there will be nothing "to do" right down the street unless you live in downtown office/commercial Bellevue, or old town Bellevue, both of which are 20 to 30 minutes by bus from MS depending on traffic. Bellevue and Redmond are
legally cities, but each has a few areas where lots of stores are collected, called malls. You will have to take a bus to the movies, supermarket, restaurants, wherever you want to go. "Alluring"!!! That's funny! We have lots of trees, not lots of allure.
3. Not. Most are NOT connected in any way to MS. You will learn, over time, the value of real estate and the fact that they're not making any land anymore so whatever land there is, is valuable, and the more people want to live in just that place, the more monetary value that place is assigned. The rent prices you state are not "ridiculously high". They are reality, and the reality here is that the cost of living is high.
Choose either town. Walk or bus to work. You'll enjoy either choice. And know that no matter what choice you make, Life will always show you the best it has to offer you from that choice. Go forth in joy!
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04-17-2008, 11:16 AM
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Between Redmond or Bellevue I would pick Bellevue easily although it would likely cost more (but you work at MS so no biggie). More places to walk to BUT I would live as close to Bellevue Square as possible. Get a place close to 8th St. and Bellevue Way, the busiest intersection there but also where a lot of places are within walking distance. Once you get a car, however, you will realize how close Redmond is. I would check out the Kirkland waterfront once you get a car, it's a great place to be in the summer.
Nightlife is skimpy everywhere around here. Where are you moving from?
I would only live in Seattle if you had to work closer to there or want to experience the night-life around Beltown and Pioneer Square which gets old after a month. Again, once you get a car you can just drive down to Beltown on the weekends b/c that's really the only time people are there. Not sure if anyone mentioned this but there's a high probability of tolls on both bridges in the near future.
No matter where you stay, be prepared to see a lot of dudes!
04-17-2008, 03:02 PM
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It depends on what kind of nightlife you like. If you like going to rock/hiphop shows, or chill places where you can sit down and have a few drinks, it never gets old. If you are looking for L.A./Miami style clubs you will be disappointed.
04-17-2008, 04:40 PM
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I think the real question here should be "do I want to live amongst other singles, or do I want to live amongst families with small children?"that bad, and your night life will be a helluva lot more interesting.
04-17-2008, 05:23 PM
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I always thought of Redmond as sort of the boonies. I think at your age, Bellevue would definitely be more fun. I actually love Bellevue. I like Redmond too, it's just so far away from everything. I wouldn't really consider Bellevue a suburb, it's more of a city on its own. Bellevue, Redmond, Issaquah, mercer island, are all more of the "rich parts" of the Seattle metro area. So I think all of those cities are very clean and upscale compared to a lot of other areas. So, I highly recommend that you go with Bellevue. I would love to live there if it wasn't so expensive.
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People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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