Single Male/Female Ratio (Seattle: school, income, pubs)

[Cinema Cat]

Originally Posted by burneggroll

Women like Starbucks men(!)

What's a Starbucks man? I go to Starbucks at least once a day. Do I get points for that?

PS: I live in Los Angeles/

[Cinema Cat]

Originally Posted by 1971SeattleNative

for the last 10 years I have not had any Seattle action at all... the only action I get is when I go on vacations ... as soon as I get out of the airports and into the city or towns I get checked out all the time and hit on all the time...

So after ten years, why are you still living in Seattle?

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by 1971SeattleNative

MALE
The reason Seattle is a horrible city to find any kind of interaction with anyone on a personal and or romantic level simply is the weather. No sun = no love connections. Cold dark weather negatively affects humans on a chemical level. I've lived here in Seattle most of my life and its always been hard here. I went to Drake for 5 years right out of high school and hung around the area for another 3 years. The whole time I never had a problem picking up girls. I got hit on more than I hit on them. I'm talking mostly about women who knew nothing about me and I them. The second I moved back here it all dried up. No women hitting on me and when I hit on them I got the cold shoulder. It was a hard fight to get any action and I endured for around 10 years but for the last 10 years I have not had any Seattle action at all I just gave up here. Now the only action I get is when I go on vacations and I don't go to prostitute land. When I go on vacation pretty much as soon as I get out of the airports and into the city or towns I get checked out all the time and hit on all the time soon as I get back "poof" its back to cold nasty biaaaaaaach land.

This is very interesting, because most of the women I knew in Seattle said the same thing: impossible to get any dating action, and they were very open to it. Seattle guys seem very reserved, except around the exceptionally attractive women. Then they suddenly perk up. When you go outside Seattle to the suburbs, people are friendlier. One thing I've noticed after reading this sub-forum for a couple of years is that a lot of men overlook the U District when seeking potential women to date. The University area has a majority of women, both as students and staff, not to mention the young faculty members. You'd think it would be the obvious place to trawl for women, but it doesn't seem to be on the radar for the city's single guys.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by treuphax

Perhaps a bit harsh on the precious (dearly scarce) women of Seattle? Furthermore blaming it on the weather is pretty ridiculous... Pretty much everywhere I've lived has had weather that is much, much, much worse than what Seattle can complain about. Buffalo, Cleveland, Wisconsin, Michigan, New Jersey, Netherlands, Poland, East Germany, Sweden... All these places where I've lived suffer much worse, much darker winters than they "suffer" here in Seattle. You know what? The people and the women as well were much warmer and more confident and relaxed than here in Seattle. Now when you lose a competition of warmth and friendliness to East Germany, you know you might have something that could be improved. Those Prussians have always been famous for their kindness, warmth and generous hospitality.... that's all they were ever trying to share with their neighbors in France and Poland when they kept visiting them unannounced in the previous centuries... A big misunderstanding to be sure...

Yes, that's me! I'm an authentic Prussian descendant, but my kindness, warmth and generosity went unappreciated in gloomy, Germanic Seattle. And btw, the Germans didn't absorb any qualities from us, as they were too busy killing us off and enslaving the rest. Are you a historian, or something? Pretty obscure bit of history you've dug up. I'm also curious to hear about your experiences in Sweden. Even the Swedes admit they're very reserved, and shut down during the gloomy months, which is most of the year. So by all means, share.

You're the poster I love to agree to disagree with, Treu. I always enjoy comparing notes with you, and hearing your side of the story. Have a nice week.

[treuphax]

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

...the Germans didn't absorb any qualities from us, as they were too busy killing us off and enslaving the rest. Are you a historian, or something? Pretty obscure bit of history you've dug up. I'm also curious to hear about your experiences in Sweden. Even the Swedes admit they're very reserved, and shut down during the gloomy months, which is most of the year. So by all means, share.

You're the poster I love to agree to disagree with, Treu. I always enjoy comparing notes with you, and hearing your side of the story. Have a nice week.

Too many details to share for now. But I will echo your good spirit. Agreement or disagreement is unimportant. But I certainly enjoy the many heartfelt experiences, different opinions and perspectives people (including Ruth4Truth) do share with us. We can really learn from others if we keep our eyes and ears open and listen. The more who share, the more we may learn...

Yes and a thumbs up back at you

Finally, bad weather is probably the worst excuse ever for a bad attitude. If it's dreadful outside, we can at least try to make the sun shine on the inside. That was the point I was trying to make with having lived in so many different places. Unpleasant dark winters were a perfect time for a relaxed coffee and cake or schnapps and sauna with good friends or new acquaintances.

But back to the original topic, I suspect that the dramatic imbalance between men and women here has made the women here especially cautious and skittish about showing too much sunshine in their attitude lest it attract too much unwanted attention. Perhaps there are other explanations... a competitive ratings driven media that loves to whip us up into hysteria about personal safety concerns that weren't an issue in Europe when I was living there. (I fear this relaxed innocence might be soon lost thanks to recent current events about which I'm sure you've read.)

I can't remember where I read it, but I recall some economists / psychologists explaining that baseline happiness doesn't really vary much for people across regions or climates. What really matters are their relationships and their integration into their communities. I'll try to find the source eventually. But this kind of thinking violates much of the pretense of this whole forum with so many so restlessly trying to find their "promised land" by careful rational selection and "comparison shopping" for new places. What's probably so tragic is that they leave whatever roots, family, friends and community behind when they chase a seductive fata morgana of an American Dream in a place so far away.

[azsportpilot]

Originally Posted by kmfseattle

This post reminded me of a map I saw in National Geographic a year or two ago, and managed to track down again (google images is amazing!):

http://joeydevilla.com/wordpress/wp-...ingles-map.jpg

The split is pretty extreme throughout the country. Everywhere west of the Mississippi is, with few exceptions, littered with tons of single males. Seattle, hidden under the giant blue dot in the upper left, is no exception. East of the Mississippi, exact opposite. Hmmm...

Seems the Northeast is the place to be for single menz!

very interesting map, thanks for posting it

the map obviously does not take into account sexual orientation, what I'm getting at here is that while some cities have a majority male population, some of those cities may have a larger than average LGBT community

so while San Francisco may be mostly male, I suspect it's still a pretty "good rock to fish from" if you are a straight male as i suspect the straight female population would have a limited selection of single straight males to choose from

I'm not sure of the demographic makeup of Seattle and the surrounding areas, but it may be that the "majority male" population of that city may not effect your ability to find a female as much as the map alone would indicate

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by treuphax

Finally, bad weather is probably the worst excuse ever for a bad attitude. If it's dreadful outside, we can at least try to make the sun shine on the inside. That was the point I was trying to make with having lived in so many different places. Unpleasant dark winters were a perfect time for a relaxed coffee and cake or schnapps and sauna with good friends or new acquaintances.
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Interesting. Clarifications always help! I see what you mean, now. Blustery, snowy or rainy weather is perfect for the sauna, you're saying. Or the Turkish Bath. Don't tell anybody, but I LOVE soaking in a tub of hot water (I don't like saunas) until I get all toasty inside, then going out in the back yard to roll around in the snow, and jumping back into the hot water again. Heaven! The problem is that Seattle doesn't have enough snow to do that in on the rare occasion it has snow at all. So we'll have to come up with a better idea for selling Seattleites on gloomy weather. You're on the right track, though.

[Seattle4321]

Seattle's woman either are A taken or B no trying to be rude but ugly. Men's cut, overweight, no makeup, and sometimes all 3! A lot of woman here in Seattle to live and breath typical liberal stuff. Not saying anything is wrong with being liberal or whatever but they are like EXTREME. Of course not everyone is but there's a lot of those types here. Good luck tho! There's a decent amount of "normal" woman here......I think........

[elkotronics]

fata morgana


Yes...huh?

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by Seattle4321

Seattle's woman either are A taken or B no trying to be rude but ugly. Men's cut, overweight, no makeup, and sometimes all 3! A lot of woman here in Seattle to live and breath typical liberal stuff. Not saying anything is wrong with being liberal or whatever but they are like EXTREME. Of course not everyone is but there's a lot of those types here. Good luck tho! There's a decent amount of "normal" woman here......I think........

No. Just--no. Seattle's women are slim, trim (all that hiking and other outdoor activity!) and some have hair down to their waist, yet still remain dateless. Go figure. But as I said before, it seems to be a problem confined mainly to Seattle proper, not the suburbs. Why remains a mystery.