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Old 09-06-2014, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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I do not think I have seen it. I will print it and read it and watch the video. Thanks for posting!
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Old 09-08-2014, 04:04 AM
 
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@josseppie

Thanks for the link, will check it out.

Guess the DARPA A2P initiative will spawn those kind of assembly techniques! I hope anyway


@ncol1

Don't want to seem rude here but you mix up a lot of things and I think you don't really understand what we are talking about.

I don't care if CPU speeds doesn't augment any more (or much slower than before) because overall processing power IS and there is no signs of slowing that. It's actually accelerating!

Why is this important? It is important because the singularity (or technologies today) doesn't need higher CPU speeds, only higher PROCESSING POWER.

Which is doubling, IIRC, every 11 months now.

The algorithms we want and need, today and tomorrow (or seriously, give me some non-Amdahl-resistant algorithms that the singularity/today-tech needs to happen ) are perfect for parallel computers.
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Old 09-08-2014, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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@josseppie

Thanks for the link, will check it out.

Guess the DARPA A2P initiative will spawn those kind of assembly techniques! I hope anyway


@ncol1

Don't want to seem rude here but you mix up a lot of things and I think you don't really understand what we are talking about.

I don't care if CPU speeds doesn't augment any more (or much slower than before) because overall processing power IS and there is no signs of slowing that. It's actually accelerating!

Why is this important? It is important because the singularity (or technologies today) doesn't need higher CPU speeds, only higher PROCESSING POWER.

Which is doubling, IIRC, every 11 months now.

The algorithms we want and need, today and tomorrow (or seriously, give me some non-Amdahl-resistant algorithms that the singularity/today-tech needs to happen ) are perfect for parallel computers.
I had thought that is was about 11 months now. Plus its not the same as looking at how we advanced in the last 10 years and say we will do the same in the next 10 because the numbers we are talking about now are exponentially larger then they were 10 years ago. That is what people don't understand or grasp and why the kind of advancements we will see in the next 6-10 years will be more then we have seen in the history of civilization.

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Old 09-08-2014, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Robots are not among us and since they are advancing exponentially we will see dramatic increases as to how they will be used in just 6 years by 2020.

This is from World Economic Forum:



At Carnegie Mellon University in the United States, robots roam the corridors, carrying out simple tasks for Professor Manuela Veloso and her team. These CoBots, or collaborative robots, can escort guests through the maze-like building, or carry packages from reception. If they realize they cannot perform part of a task, they will simply ask for help.

This is the revolutionary aspect of Veloso’s work. “The option was to wait, to do more research until all the robots have arms, all the robots can learn all situations, and they can handle all the uncertainty of perception and cognition, and that would probably take an eternity,” she explains.


The link: https://www.city-data.com/forum/scien...m-yet-144.html
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Old 09-08-2014, 03:19 PM
 
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This is a excellent example as to why I will live forever and this will all start around 2020 and life 2.0 or the biotech revolution.

UCLA biologists have identified a gene that can slow the aging process throughout the entire body when activated remotely in key organ systems.

Working with fruit flies, the life scientists activated a gene called AMPK that is a key energy sensor in cells; it gets activated when cellular energy levels are low.

Increasing the amount of AMPK in fruit flies' intestines increased their lifespans by about 30 percent — to roughly eight weeks from the typical six — and the flies stayed healthier longer as well.

The research, published Sept. 4 in the open-source journal Cell Reports, could have important implications for delaying aging and disease in humans, said David Walker, an associate professor of integrative biology and physiology at UCLA and senior author of the research.

The link: UCLA biologists delay the aging process by 'remote control'

A good video on what is coming in the 2020's.

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Old 09-09-2014, 01:45 AM
 
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Yeah, I'm used to think "exponentially" but it still blows my mind. Like humanity generated more data last year than it have done since forever. It's expected to do the same next year and probably so on...

Robots doesn't advance exponentially, or well, the software/computer part does (I think) but not the physical parts (motors & batteries).
On the other hand, they are already among us (I got a Roomba ) and soon they might get enough good at doing a bit of everything to actually matter. Or wait, that's maybe already in the doing: Baxter | Redefining Robotics and Manufacturing | Rethink Robotics

(ps. Your link is pointing on this page not on the research thing).

I'm all for living forever but I don't think switching off a gene or something similar (eat Rapamycin to mimick restricted calory intake for example) will do any big difference, what's needed is Full blown SENS (Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Those "slow ageing" (instead of reverse ageing) strategies could make LEV (Longevity escape velocity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) possible though.

Ray Kurzweil says that by 2024 we'll be adding a year to our life expectancy with every year that passes (today it is 6 hours for newborns 5 hours for the ~40 year old) .
Dr de Grey predicts trebling the remaining lifespan in healthy mice by 2024 and a 50/50 chance for full blown SENS about 2034-2039.

If you are interested in longevity, read Ending Aging by Dr de Grey, it's from 2007 but it's definitely worth it.
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Old 09-09-2014, 02:55 AM
 
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I don't know in what way this might help lead to the singularity but Open Source Crowd Bio Hacking might lead us closer to abundance.

Well, anyway, here is the link: https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/...er-bio-hacking

[edit] A lot of bio tech is also information tech so it grows exponentially.
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Old 09-09-2014, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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Robots are not among us and since they are advancing exponentially we will see dramatic increases as to how they will be used in just 6 years by 2020.

This is from World Economic Forum:



At Carnegie Mellon University in the United States, robots roam the corridors, carrying out simple tasks for Professor Manuela Veloso and her team. These CoBots, or collaborative robots, can escort guests through the maze-like building, or carry packages from reception. If they realize they cannot perform part of a task, they will simply ask for help.

This is the revolutionary aspect of Veloso’s work. “The option was to wait, to do more research until all the robots have arms, all the robots can learn all situations, and they can handle all the uncertainty of perception and cognition, and that would probably take an eternity,” she explains.


The link: https://www.city-data.com/forum/scien...m-yet-144.html
I was looking back and I am not sure what I did on the link so here is the right one.

The robot revolution has already begun - Forum:Blog Forum:Blog | The World Economic Forum
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Old 09-09-2014, 10:07 AM
 
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Default Stanford engineer aims to connect the world with ant-sized radios

As I have been posting computers will eventually the size of blood cells by the mid to late 2020's and smaller in the 2030's. Well we are well on our way and this is the latest example. And remember since we are now doubling larger numbers the advances we will see in just the next 6 years are going to nothing short of amazing.

This is from Stanford News Service:


A Stanford engineering team has built a radio the size of an ant, a device so energy efficient that it gathers all the power it needs from the same electromagnetic waves that carry signals to its receiving antenna – no batteries required.

Designed to compute, execute and relay commands, this tiny wireless chip costs pennies to fabricate – making it cheap enough to become the missing link between the Internet as we know it and the linked-together smart gadgets envisioned in the "Internet of Things."

The link: Stanford engineer aims to connect the world with ant-sized radios | Stanford News Release
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Old 09-09-2014, 10:54 AM
 
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Actually it is and Ray Kurzweil explains that.

All you have to do is look at how fast computers have advanced in 10 years to know Moore's law is alive and well. In 2004 we did not have smart phones today we have google glass. That is unprecedented amount of advancement in the history of civilization.
Nope, dimensions are not a performance measure, sorry.

The CPU speed of an Intel processor has been flat since 2003, Google glass or no Google glass.
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