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Old 08-05-2021, 04:06 PM
 
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Well this a new development in the Florida school mask situation.

Florida students may get school vouchers to avoid wearing masks

https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/...es/5498226001/

- Hope Scholarship vouchers would be made available to parents who don’t want their children wearing masks in school districts which require them.

- The proposed policy is set for review Friday by the state Board of Education.

- With the scholarship, parents who want to avoid mask mandates could transfer their kids to another public school, or get taxpayer-funded seats in a private school where they wouldn't have to wear face coverings.

TALLAHASSEE – A week after Gov. Ron DeSantis promoted a tough policy banning mandatory masks at Florida schools, state education leaders Thursday looked poised to endorse a softer stand in the face of an uprising by some school districts.

Hope Scholarship vouchers would be made available to parents who don’t want their children wearing masks in school districts that require them, under a proposed policy set for review Friday by the state Board of Education.

With the scholarship, parents who want to avoid mask mandates could transfer their kids to another public school, or get taxpayer-funded seats in a private school where they wouldn’t have to wear face coverings.

The move by the DeSantis administration seems to acknowledge he may not have the authority to reverse recent action by school boards in Duval, Broward and Alachua counties to require masks, and a push by Leon County School Superintendent Rocky Hanna to mandate masks when students return to class next week.

A key point, an attorney for the state’s biggest teachers union said, is that DeSantis let lapse in June a state of emergency order that granted him broad power over state laws and regulations.

Without the state of emergency, the Florida Constitution clearly gives school boards the power to operate, control and supervise schools within their districts. Mask mandates are one of the steps districts can take legally, said Ron Meyer, an attorney for the Florida Education Association.

“Constitutionally, the school districts are on very sound ground,” Meyer said.

Asked Thursday during an event in Tampa about the Alachua County School Board implementing a mask mandate for at least the first two weeks of school, DeSantis said: “It’s the parents’ choice, Alachua County can’t override the parents.”

DeSantis reiterated his opposition to school mask mandates and briefly touched on Friday’s Board of Education meeting, noting the mask issue will be addressed there. But the policy being contemplated by state education officials appears to stop short of trying to overturn local mask requirements.
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Old 08-05-2021, 04:57 PM
 
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Well this a new development in the Florida school mask situation.

Florida students may get school vouchers to avoid wearing masks

https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/...es/5498226001/

- Hope Scholarship vouchers would be made available to parents who don’t want their children wearing masks in school districts which require them.

- The proposed policy is set for review Friday by the state Board of Education.

- With the scholarship, parents who want to avoid mask mandates could transfer their kids to another public school, or get taxpayer-funded seats in a private school where they wouldn't have to wear face coverings.

TALLAHASSEE – A week after Gov. Ron DeSantis promoted a tough policy banning mandatory masks at Florida schools, state education leaders Thursday looked poised to endorse a softer stand in the face of an uprising by some school districts.

Hope Scholarship vouchers would be made available to parents who don’t want their children wearing masks in school districts that require them, under a proposed policy set for review Friday by the state Board of Education.

With the scholarship, parents who want to avoid mask mandates could transfer their kids to another public school, or get taxpayer-funded seats in a private school where they wouldn’t have to wear face coverings.

The move by the DeSantis administration seems to acknowledge he may not have the authority to reverse recent action by school boards in Duval, Broward and Alachua counties to require masks, and a push by Leon County School Superintendent Rocky Hanna to mandate masks when students return to class next week.

A key point, an attorney for the state’s biggest teachers union said, is that DeSantis let lapse in June a state of emergency order that granted him broad power over state laws and regulations.

Without the state of emergency, the Florida Constitution clearly gives school boards the power to operate, control and supervise schools within their districts. Mask mandates are one of the steps districts can take legally, said Ron Meyer, an attorney for the Florida Education Association.

“Constitutionally, the school districts are on very sound ground,” Meyer said.

Asked Thursday during an event in Tampa about the Alachua County School Board implementing a mask mandate for at least the first two weeks of school, DeSantis said: “It’s the parents’ choice, Alachua County can’t override the parents.”

DeSantis reiterated his opposition to school mask mandates and briefly touched on Friday’s Board of Education meeting, noting the mask issue will be addressed there. But the policy being contemplated by state education officials appears to stop short of trying to overturn local mask requirements.
Using tax money to support private schools is ILLEGAL!
Just as his mandate to prevent school districts from requiring them!

The ACLU needs to sue him sentient
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Old 08-05-2021, 06:38 PM
 
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Gee...someone is regurgitating bullchit
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Old 08-05-2021, 07:52 PM
 
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Florida students may get school vouchers to avoid wearing masks
There's still a lot of unanswered questions about this proposed rule. We should learn more tomorrow. Here is a link that goes into further detail (there's no paywall).

School vouchers to avoid mask rules? Florida education officials are considering it

https://news.yahoo.com/school-vouche...154023521.html

Many of the proposal’s details remain foggy.

Hours after the Florida Department of Education noticed the meeting for Friday at 11 a.m., the proposed rule’s language was still being crafted by the state agency. When reached for comment, a Department of Education spokeswoman could not provide any clarity on whether the proposed rule would make all parents eligible for vouchers, whether they oppose masks and want their kids to go to a school without a mask mandate, or the other way around.

Gov. Ron DeSantis’ office and the Department of Education also did not answer what the financial impact of this proposed rule would be; how much money is available in Hope scholarships for students to claim; how many students may get vouchers if the rule is approved; whether schools would be required to accept these scholarships; and when the public would be able to see the actual rule language.

The public would be able to provide input on the proposed rule through a conference call: 1-800-367-2403 and confirmation code 8000177.
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Old 08-06-2021, 07:47 AM
 
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WHY on earth is any poster copying and pasting or re-broadcasting voluminous previously disseminated "reports" that are readily available to be read and dissected elsewhere, away from a community-specific web-based forum?


Just doubting the purpose, and propriety of clogging up discourse on this forum, when there already is a plethora of well-worn, repetitive published data throughout other media sources.


It seems overwrought, and needlessly over-embellished, albeit a topic worthy of highlighted consideration.


My opinion is that these voluminous, thesis-styled posts belong in a more appropriate "research document"......or in the op-ed section of print media for "distribution" and "repetition" of content subject matter.


I don't think this is the best place for presenting a "journal" on this topic for a localized forum.
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Old 08-06-2021, 07:55 AM
 
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So don’t read this thread
I find it very helpful
Some articles are behind a paywall like my local newspaper so I have access to it
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Old 08-06-2021, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Using tax money to support private schools is ILLEGAL!
Just as his mandate to prevent school districts from requiring them!

The ACLU needs to sue him sentient
If public schools did a better job, there wouldn't be a need for such policies. Public education is failing, and America's tumbling downward on the global scale.

Forcing families, who pull their kids from a failing public school, to pay taxes to support that failing school, should be illegal. Throwing money at failed public schools endlessly, provides zero accountability.

We need competition amongst schools that "freedom of choice", & "private school vouchers" provides.

Public shools have had decades to improve, & some have, but overall America's falling behind, so changes must be made. Time's up...doing the same thing, is no longer an option...that's insanity.

Back on topic...I can see why Florida ranks 26th in deaths-per-capita...middle of the pack, and not #4 deadliest like Rhode Island, for instance.

I'm in Rhode Island this week, & there is widespread disregard towards covid, or it's variants. People pack into bars & restaurants like Sardines, (no masks) & they have a low vaccination rate where I'm at. It's shocking to see.

Hats off to Floridians, for being more responsible & prudent in their own actions, especially in this forum area. I've never seen the careless behavior in our forum area, like I'm seeing up here. Let's keep our guards up.
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Old 08-06-2021, 09:11 AM
 
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Sarasota Memorial Hospital postponing elective procedures amid crush of COVID-19 patients

https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/...ts/5498260001/

Sarasota Memorial Hospital announced Thursday that elective procedures are being postponed to free up staff and space amid a crush of COVID-19 patients.

"Due to the continuing influx of COVID patients, we are beginning to scale back non-urgent, elective procedures," said hospital public relations manager Kim Savage in an email. "We are working closely with our surgeons to reschedule and temporarily limit elective procedures that require longer inpatient hospital stays."
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Old 08-06-2021, 10:09 AM
 
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Hmm this is not what I've been reading. Vaccinated asymptomatc people can transmit Covid-19. This is just another example of "misinformation" from the FDOH.

----> " DOH Sarasota Spokesman Steve Huard said that in order to pass the virus a vaccinated person would need to be showing symptoms and that symptomatic people, vaccinated or not, will be required to quarantine." <----
Our local "leaders" are basing their school "mitigation strategies" on misinformation. It's generally accepted in scientific circles that while the viral load is probably lower in vaccinated asymptomatic people compared to vaccinated people with symptoms - Asymptomatic people with the Delta variant are capable of transmitting the virus (albeit they are probably less contagious than vaccinated people with symptoms). And yes more evidence keeps coming in that overall vaccinated people are transmitting the Delta variant:

Early signs COVID-19 vaccines may not stop Delta transmission, England says

Public Health England's (PHE) said initial findings suggested "levels of virus in those who become infected with Delta having already been vaccinated may be similar to levels found in unvaccinated people".

"This may have implications for people's infectiousness, whether they have been vaccinated or not," it added.

It stressed it was "early exploratory analysis" and that more targeted studies were needed to give confirmation.

If the findings are confirmed, it could have" huge implications for transmissibility" as "data has consistently shown the vaccine slows down and should, effectively, stop the spread of the virus".

Dr Simon Clarke, a microbiology professor at Reading University, told Sky News the early findings were a "big deal".

"We'll need more studies to find a definitive answer," he said.

"But if the vaccine only blocks transmission by, say, 50% you'll never get herd immunity even with a 100% vaccine uptake."
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Old 08-06-2021, 10:13 AM
 
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WHY on earth is any poster copying and pasting or re-broadcasting voluminous previously disseminated "reports" that are readily available to be read and dissected elsewhere, away from a community-specific web-based forum?


Just doubting the purpose, and propriety of clogging up discourse on this forum, when there already is a plethora of well-worn, repetitive published data throughout other media sources.


It seems overwrought, and needlessly over-embellished, albeit a topic worthy of highlighted consideration.


My opinion is that these voluminous, thesis-styled posts belong in a more appropriate "research document"......or in the op-ed section of print media for "distribution" and "repetition" of content subject matter.


I don't think this is the best place for presenting a "journal" on this topic for a localized forum.
With 63000 views I’m guessing some people appreciate it.
That a ton of views for this forum.
Is it that you don’t like what the data suggests?

ETA: personally I appreciate real data vs the usual outrageous unsubstantiated garbage that is usually posted from unreliable sources.

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