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Old 06-07-2010, 07:10 PM
 
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Jesus Was A Failure
By looking at the Christians, even Jesus would have to admit that he was failure as a teacher. All his sermons have been spoken to deaf ears; a holy waste of time. His purpose was that all sinners should be forgiven, this he did. Why did he live for 33 years? He could have been crucified immediately after being born.
Those who call themselves Christians cannot quote any of Jesus’s teachings. They are more likely to quote the bible, evangelists, religious figures, athletes, and politicians. Obviously, the sermons that Jesus taught went in one ear and out the other.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:41 PM
 
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Jesus Was A Failure
By looking at the Christians, even Jesus would have to admit that he was failure as a teacher. All his sermons have been spoken to deaf ears; a holy waste of time. His purpose was that all sinners should be forgiven, this he did. Why did he live for 33 years? He could have been crucified immediately after being born.
Those who call themselves Christians cannot quote any of Jesus’s teachings. They are more likely to quote the bible, evangelists, religious figures, athletes, and politicians. Obviously, the sermons that Jesus taught went in one ear and out the other.
Love your enemies.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:44 PM
 
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Love your enemies.
Where do you find evidence of this?
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:48 PM
 
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Where do you find evidence of this?
In mature Christians.
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Old 06-07-2010, 08:02 PM
 
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Yeah, sure, we stupid Christians don't know what we're talking about. Yep. That's the truth.

Heh. No.

In reality, you're just making a shaky generalization. Steretyping Christians as ignorant of their faith is hardly something you want to say to the 3 billion who label themselves so, including me! Tip: next time, try fact, not "all" and "more likely."
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Old 06-07-2010, 08:19 PM
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Jesus Was A Failure
By looking at the Christians, even Jesus would have to admit that he was failure as a teacher. All his sermons have been spoken to deaf ears; a holy waste of time. His purpose was that all sinners should be forgiven, this he did. Why did he live for 33 years? He could have been crucified immediately after being born.
Those who call themselves Christians cannot quote any of Jesus’s teachings. They are more likely to quote the bible, evangelists, religious figures, athletes, and politicians. Obviously, the sermons that Jesus taught went in one ear and out the other.
1) Maybe they are not Christians - how would you know? Your are not in the position to judge. Furthermore, Christ said 'follow me' not people; the example is Christ Himself - his life was the example. As Paul said - only follow me as I follow Christ.

2) Christ did not just come to die - any person with half a brain would understand this as not being Christian theology. Christ came to live as a man under the Law to be the perfect example of righteousness, he came not just to die but to suffer for our sins, and yes he came to teach and fulfill the OT - hence His ministry.

3) Jesus's teaching are recorded in the Bible so a person who quotes it is referencing Christ and not ignoring Him. Unless you think you know where Christ's teaching are outside of the Bible.

4) If Jesus's sermons went in one ear and out the other we would not be having this conversation now would we. Unless you mean Christians not living as Christ would - in that case refer to #1.

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Old 06-07-2010, 08:20 PM
 
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Yeah, sure, we stupid Christians don't know what we're talking about. Yep. That's the truth.

Heh. No.

In reality, you're just making a shaky generalization. Steretyping Christians as ignorant of their faith is hardly something you want to say to the 3 billion who label themselves so, including me! Tip: next time, try fact, not "all" and "more likely."
Speaking of facts, can you possibly quote any of the teachings of Jesus by which you live?
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Old 06-07-2010, 08:22 PM
 
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1) Maybe they are not Christians - how would you know? Your are not in the position to judge. Furthermore, Christ said 'follow me' not people; the example is Christ Himself - his life was the example. As Paul said - only follow me as I follow Christ.

2) Christ did not just come to die - any person with half a brain would understand this as not being Christian theology. Christ came to live as a man under the Law to be the perfect example of righteousness, he came not just to die but to suffer for our sins, and yes he came to teach and fulfill the OT - hence His ministry.

3) Jesus's teaching are recorded in the Bible so a person who quotes it is referencing Christ and not ignoring Him. Unless you think you know where Christ's teaching are outside of the Bible.

4) If Jesus's sermons went in one ear and out the other we would not be having this conversation now would we. Unless you mean Christians not living as Christ would - in that case refer to #1.

It seems that Visvaldis is the Failure.
How many of his teachings have stuck in your head?
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Old 06-07-2010, 08:30 PM
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How many of his teachings have stuck in your head?
Failed again - If you understood my post you would know that that is irrelevent. I could be a fake Christian - you can not know. It would still not explain your failure to undersand the purpose of Christ's coming. Once again the idea that Christ is a faliure because Christians fail is a failure in itself.

Can we move on.
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Old 06-07-2010, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Failed again - If you understood my post you would know that that is irrelevent. I could be a fake Christian - you can not know. It would still not explain your failure to undersand the purpose of Christ's coming. Once again the idea that Christ is a faliure because Christians fail is a failure in itself.

Can we move on.
Good point. Christ came because humans fail.
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