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"Now, theoretically, in a sense, if one were to start with wolves, and breed generations of dogs, breeding the right combinations together with all the same sorts of mutations occurring all over again in the right sequence etc., then one could breed a dog with poodle characteristics. But, one could never breed a wolf from a poodle because the necessary information for wolves has been corrupted or deleted." - Ken Ham, Pres. Aig
'Two-kilogram teacup poodles; 90-kg mastiffs; slender greyhounds; squat English bulldogs: For a single species, canines come in a vast array of shapes and sizes. Even more remarkably, they all come from the same stock. … Only subtle differences distinguish dogs from coyotes, jackals, and other canids, making family trees difficult to construct and the timing of the transition from wolf to dog hard to pinpoint.’ Pennisi, E., A shaggy dog history, Science 298(5598):1540–1542, 22 November, 2002.
hehehe. I get such a kick out of these debates. LOL. Montanaguy, they are ALL STILL dogs!
You are missing the point. They have only had, at the outside, 15,000 years to diverge from wolves. What about giving them 100 times as long, 1.5 million years.
They will not longer be dogs, and 1.5 million years ago, they were probably not dogs either.
Ok, I'm going to go out on a limb here. I think if we could combine the DNA of Alpha and Spunky1 that it's quite possible that we could produce a clone of a very primitive apeman. Just kidding guys, since we're beating you guys up so bad on this debate I thought I'd try to throw in a little humor.
You are missing the point. They have only had, at the outside, 15,000 years to diverge from wolves. What about giving them 100 times as long, 1.5 million years.
They will not longer be dogs, and 1.5 million years ago, they were probably not dogs either.
where is your proof of that?. where is your proof of any animal changing into a different kind of animal? Why is there not one living transition? there should logically be millions, there are millions of set kinds.
Contrary to creationist belief, we did NOT come from monkeys, we share a common ancestor. Just like the housecat and lion, just like the dog and the wolf.
Living things adapt to their environment, not vice versa. The best adaptations are more likely to reproduce and survive.
Which is why the "crocoduck" never appeared.
And why are all breeds of dogs still dogs? Because genes flow freely between all breeds. What if all breeds but the great Dane and the chihuahua were to go extinct? Then there would be no interbreeding between them, and the two would be established as separate species.
Every living thing is potentially a transitional form. Only those species that have produced new species are actually transitional forms. That wouldn’t include modern humans, for instance.
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Contrary to creationist belief, we did NOT come from monkeys, we share a common ancestor. Just like the housecat and lion, just like the dog and the wolf.
I don’t think the common ancestor of a housecat and a lion looked like either, but I think the common ancestor of humans and monkeys would have been categorized by pretty much anyone as a monkey. And the common ancestor of dogs and modern wolves was definitely a wolf.
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