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Never said they were, i was pointing out that some think its normal and okay to do so, and are even organized to the point of having legal representation and a non profit organization.
Not seeing that in the non gay arena. There is a agenda to say sex with anyone anytime with anything is normal and good, and should not be illegal.
That is why i brought up NAMBLA, not to compare Gay, with Non Gay pedophiles.
godspeed,
freedom
Your use of NAMBLA as an example makes zero sense.
Here is how your own example would work with that example:
"Never said they were, i was pointing out that some think its normal and okay to do so, and are even organized to the point of having legal representation and a non profit organization.
Not seeing that in the anti-racist arena. There is a agenda to say racism with anyone anytime with anything is normal and good, and should not be illegal.
I know this is a heated subject but folks, please, let's try and have civil discourse.
When an OP is "Born gay?" with a question mark you have to know that some are going to come in and say "yes" with either good or bad information and some are going to come in and say "no" with either good or bad information.
Folks find this subject delicate and offensive on BOTH sides of the argument so if you can not stand the heat, please stay out of the fire!
I'm leaving it open for a bit longer, but it's spiraling towards a closing.
According to BIG THIRSTY! PEOPLE ARE BORN GAY.......
Does that mean God made them that way, or that the Sins of the fathers are visited on the children and that man's sin and deviance has created homosexuality.
Seeing as God is Love and perfection. We can conclude that God did not make people GAY.
Now we don't need a thread on that.......
Looks like this thread has concluded. On to more important subjects.
According to BIG THIRSTY! PEOPLE ARE BORN GAY.......
Glad you could finally see I'm right.
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Does that mean God made them that way
If God makes everything... then wouldn't that be so?
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or that the Sins of the fathers are visited on the children and that man's sin and deviance has created homosexuality.
That doesn't make sense. That would mean that for the past 200,000 years (of which there were plenty of gay people during that time) this wave of "gay" would be reaching a peak of gaydom. The population would be like 70% gay all over the world. So just using a little common sense we can determine.. thats just not true.
Edit. That 70% figure is just a ballpark figure.
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Seeing as God is Love and perfection. We can conclude that God did not make people GAY.
Sure we can. Remember you already said People are born gay. God is love and perfection and thus (this is probably the part you don't want to hear) he made people Gay. So if he made people gay.. they must (according to your logic) be perfect in God's eyes. No?
I appreciate you finally seeing what makes sense. I mean God doesn't make biological oddities out of people right?
Here is how your own example would work with that example:
"Never said they were, i was pointing out that some think its normal and okay to do so, and are even organized to the point of having legal representation and a non profit organization.
Not seeing that in the anti-racist arena. There is a agenda to say racism with anyone anytime with anything is normal and good, and should not be illegal.
That is why i brought up KKK..."
So what your saying here is that people that are born gay join the KKK because the lawyers that represent both sides are the same.
I can see your logic, guilt by association.
Strange though, there are black gays as well, so how do you deal with blacks being in the KKK and being Gay.
I haven't heard a reasonable explanation from anyone that would explain someone's homosexuality except that they were born that way. The devil made them do it is a pretty lame explanation and no one has ever come up with convincing data that would support the idea that some life experience causes it. The feeling I'm getting is that many Christians just can't admit that it could be genetic and beyond someone's control because then they couldn't blame the gay person and call them a sinner. Also the idea that someone just decides to be gay is laughable. You either have those feelings or you don't.
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So if he made people gay.. they must (according to your logic) be perfect in God's eyes. No?