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Old 07-07-2015, 10:07 AM
 
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The way I read that is that they are not allowed to advertise that they actively violate the state law.
They were interviewed on tv and said they were going to continue to fight. They never said that they hated gays, or that they would go against the law.
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Old 07-07-2015, 10:09 AM
 
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No they were fined for violating the laws regarding discrimination in a public accommodation. They refused to sell an item to a couple because they were gay.

The baker does not "participate" in the wedding, the baker is not attending the wedding, the baker does not officiate the wedding, the cake is not even part of the wedding, it's part of the reception AFTER a wedding is concluded. In this case that cake wasn't even to be served in the same state as the wedding. The baker is selling a cake, that is the extent of their job.
Baking a cake for a wedding is participating in the wedding event. Did they walk down the aisle? No. But it is asking them to facilitate an activity they are morally opposed to.
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Old 07-07-2015, 10:09 AM
 
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Not this case, but generally, The only way I would fine a bakery is if it was unreasonable to ask the buyers to get a cake somewhere else. If they walked around the block to buy one from me, (at double the cost ...j/k) the first bakery should not be fined like that.

Make the fine like a speeding ticket for breaking the law. If they cannot get a reasonable cake from somewhere (10- 20 min radius), slap the no-ba-jesus out of the bakery.
And blacks had other choices to eat lunch at instead of the Woolworth lunch counter in Greensboro, NC?
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Old 07-07-2015, 10:10 AM
 
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I celebrate wrongs being righted.

But the icing on these "equality cakes" is the whining of Viz and others of his little, doomed-to-extinction sub-sect.

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Old 07-07-2015, 10:11 AM
 
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Baking a cake for a wedding is participating in the wedding event. Did they walk down the aisle? No. But it is asking them to facilitate an activity they are morally opposed to.
So a christian gun shop owner selling a gun that kills many people is particpating in the killings...LOGICAL REASONING..unless of course the idea is the christian gun shop owner is NOT morally opposed to murder?
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Old 07-07-2015, 10:12 AM
 
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Does that really mean that you can say whatever you like about somebody and use religion as an excuse? If so, the amendment needs an amendment.
If you had your way, you would see it completely exterminated from the Constitution. I'm starting to see exactly why atheists are so passionately defensive of their gay friends. They want to raise the banner of discrimination as a vehicle to destroy religion. Their COMPLETE lack of respect for people's sacred beliefs is evidence enough for this end game.
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Old 07-07-2015, 10:12 AM
 
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They were interviewed on tv and said they were going to continue to fight. They never said that they hated gays, or that they would go against the law.
Somebody can't read between the lines I guess?
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Old 07-07-2015, 10:13 AM
 
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And blacks had other choices to eat lunch at instead of the Woolworth lunch counter in Greensboro, NC?
Or ride in the back of the bus...
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Old 07-07-2015, 10:14 AM
 
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If you had your way, you would see it completely exterminated from the Constitution. I'm starting to see exactly why atheists are so passionately defensive of their gay friends. They want to raise the banner of discrimination as a vehicle to destroy religion. Their COMPLETE lack of respect for people's sacred beliefs is evidence enough for this end game.
The world will be a better place once your kind finally dies out...
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Old 07-07-2015, 10:16 AM
 
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They were interviewed on tv and said they were going to continue to fight. They never said that they hated gays, or that they would go against the law.
Actually if you look at the court documents, they said repeatedly in interviews that they would not sell wedding cakes to gays, and they never would. Thus they were stating that they broke the law and would continue to do so.
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