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Old 04-19-2017, 06:22 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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Originally Posted by Arach Angle View Post
I understand this. But can't there be levels of faith? From blind faith to faith in one's conclusions based on observations?

for example, I have "faith" that the biosphere's interactions match up best with "life" over "non-life". I wouldn't call that "life" "god of the christian bible" but I can understand how people misunderstand what is going on around them.
Mo. You are confusing or fiddling definitions again. We have explained how we are using the terms, and here you reveal that you understand and agree with it.

"belief" belief based on verified or credible information, ranging from Known to the strongly suspected as true but unverified (e.g Abiogenesis)

There are unknowns, ranging from the outside explanation. And there are all manner of hypotheses and guesswork. And the corrct answer there is "We don't know - yet". It is never "God" and that has never been a legitimate answer.

But Real faith is when all the evidence is against and STILL they claim they are right and everything we know is wrong compared to the faith -claim. That is Faith is the most extreme kind - firm belief without a scrap of decent evidence and even in despite of it. We call it "Blind" faith.

Those who have it use all manner of deception to prop that Faith up. Misrepresenting the actual evidence
Deprecating the evidence.
Ignoring the evidence and claiming Faith as the greatest good.
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