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Old 07-21-2007, 10:20 PM
 
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I have a question that has really bothered me for years. I have asked many people for answers and no one has been able to give one that I could accept..Although this has nothing to do with my salvation, I still would like to have an explanation that I can eccept. I first thought about pming a couple of you ,but it may be a good open forum question.

Jesus was buried just before sunset on the day of preparation for the Sabbath on Saturday (therefore sunset Friday to sunset Saturday would be one night and one day and sunset Saturday to sunrise the first day of the week, Sundaywould be one more night. The Gospels say He was already gone when the womwn arrived just at sunrise...That adds up to two nights and one day I have already heard the explanation of there being two Sabbaths that week and that gave the extra days and night. That doesn't make sense either because the gospels all agree that the women went to the tomb on the first day of the week (Sunday)
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Old 07-21-2007, 10:45 PM
 
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I'm not sure if I am following you
But are you wondering how it comes out to Him rising on the third day?
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Old 07-21-2007, 10:55 PM
 
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Is it possible that at that time Sunday was not yet considered the first day of the week? I know that at the time the Gospels were written that Sunday was not considered the Christian Sabbath. Also, in Genesis the 7th day was the last day, a day of rest (the Sabbath?). That being so, I guess Sunday would be the first day of the week. Let us know what you come up with.
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Old 07-21-2007, 10:58 PM
 
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Here's what I found at this site...hope it helps!

On what day was Jesus crucified?

Question: "On what day was Jesus crucified?"

Answer: The Bible does not specifically state which day of the week Jesus was crucified. The two most widely held views are Friday and Wednesday. Some, however, using a synthesis of both the Friday and Wednesday arguments, accept Thursday as the day.

Jesus said in Matthew 12:40, "For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Those who argue for a Friday crucifixion say that there is still a valid way in which He could have been considered in the grave for three days. In the Jewish mind of the First Century, a part of day was considered as a full day. Since Jesus was in the grave for part of Friday, all of Saturday, and part of Sunday—He could be considered to have been in the grave for three days. One of the principal arguments for Friday is found in Mark 15:42 that notes that Jesus was crucified "the day before the Sabbath." If that was the weekly Sabbath, i.e. Saturday, then that fact leads to a Friday crucifixion. Another argument for Friday says that verses such as Matthew 16:21 and Luke 9:22 teach that Jesus would rise on the third day; therefore, He wouldn't need to be in the grave a full three days and nights. But while some translations use "on the third day" for these verses, not all do and not everyone agrees that that is the best way to translate these verses. Furthermore, Mark 8:31 says that Jesus will be raised "after" three days.

The Thursday argument expands on the Friday view and argues mainly that there are too many events (some count as many as twenty) happening between Christ's burial and Sunday morning to occur from Friday evening to Sunday morning. They point out that this is especially a problem when the only full day between Friday and Sunday was Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath. An extra day or two eliminates that problem. The Thursday advocates could reason: Suppose you haven't seen a friend since Monday evening. The next time you see him it is Thursday morning and you say, “I haven’t seen you in three days” even though it had technically only been 60 hours (2.5 days). If Jesus was crucified on Thursday, this example shows how it could be considered three days.

The Wednesday opinion states that there were two Sabbaths that week. After the first one (the one that occurred on the evening of the crucifixion, Mark 15:42; Luke 23:52-54), the women purchased spices--note that they made their purchase after the Sabbath (Mark 16:1). The Wednesday view holds that this "Sabbath" was the Passover (see Lev 16:29-31; 23:24-32, 39 where high holy days that are not necessarily the seventh day of the week are referred to as the Sabbath). The second Sabbath that week was the normal weekly Saturday. Note that in Luke 23:56, the women who had purchased spices after the first Sabbath, returned and prepared the spices then "rested on the Sabbath" (Luke 23:56). The argument states that they could not purchase the spices after the Sabbath, yet prepare those spices before the Sabbath—unless there were two Sabbaths. With the two-Sabbath view, if Christ was crucified on Thursday, then the high holy Sabbath (the Passover) would have begun Thursday at sundown and ended at Friday sundown—at the beginning of the weekly Sabbath or Saturday. Purchasing the spices after the first Sabbath (Passover) would have meant they purchased them on Saturday and were breaking the Sabbath.

Therefore, this view states, the only explanation that does not violate the biblical account of the women and the spices and holds to a literal understanding of Matthew 12:40, is that Christ was crucified on Wednesday. The Sabbath that was a high holy day (Passover) occurred on Thursday, the women purchased spices (after that) on Friday and returned and prepared the spices on the same day, they rested on Saturday which was the weekly Sabbath, then brought the spices to the tomb early Sunday. He was buried near sundown on Wednesday, which began Thursday in the Jewish calendar. Using a Jewish calendar, you have Thursday night (night one), Thursday day (day one), Friday night (night two), Friday day (day two), Saturday night (night three), Saturday day (day three). We don't know exactly when He rose, but we do know that it was before sunrise on Sunday (John 20:1, Mary Magdalene came "while it was still dark" and the stone was rolled away and she found Peter and told him that "they have taken away the Lord out of the tomb"), so He could have risen as early as just after sunset Saturday evening, which began the first day of the week to the Jews.

A possible problem with the Wednesday view is that the disciples who walked with Jesus on the road to Emmaus did so on "the same day" of His resurrection (Luke 24:13). The disciples, who do not recognize Jesus, tell Him of Jesus' crucifixion (24:21) and say that "today is the third day since these things happened" (24:22). Wednesday to Sunday is four days. A possible explanation is that they may have been counting since Wednesday evening at Christ's burial, which begins the Jewish Thursday, and Thursday to Sunday could be counted as three days.

In the grand scheme of things, it is not all that important to know what day of the week Christ was crucified. If it were very important, then God's Word would have clearly communicated the day. What is important is that He did die, and that He physically, bodily rose from the dead. What is equally important is the reason He died—to take the punishment that all sinners deserve. John 3:16 and 3:36 both proclaim that believing, or putting your trust, in Him results in eternal life!
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:44 PM
 
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Believe me Blue, the powers of explaining away biblical mistakes and scientific facts never cease to amaze me.
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Old 07-22-2007, 07:56 AM
 
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And how many time have you told someone that you hadn't seen them for three days (or whatever time period you choose) when actually it was only two days plus some hours?

Friday is Day One. Saturday is Day Two and Sunday is Day Three. The time of day is not important for the counting. Anytime after midnight on the third day would be on what we now call the First Day of the week.
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:14 AM
 
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And how many time have you told someone that you hadn't seen them for three days (or whatever time period you choose) when actually it was only two days plus some hours?

Friday is Day One. Saturday is Day Two and Sunday is Day Three. The time of day is not important for the counting. Anytime after midnight on the third day would be on what we now call the First Day of the week.
Thanks Padgett, but three days and three nights are predicted in the old and new testament..The Jewish peoples new day began at sunset and ended the next sunset. Then, again the period of sunset to sunrise, and sunrise to sunset will vary according to the rotation of the earth. They did not reckon time with a world time as we do now.
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:30 AM
 
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You are correct. They didn't reckon time as we do, so why worry about what was said.

Three days is much more understandable to the Gentile than 2.5 days.

Try to translate "on the third day" into something else. Would something like "Several hours after the Second Day, He arose from the dead" be as effective in getting the message out?


Always keep in mind that much of the New Testament was written for the non-jewish way of thinking. That was a period of great transition, a blurring of one tradition and a beginning of another. If the writer was of a non-jewish background, the timing of the Jewish Sabath probably would not have been important.
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:02 PM
 
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I have a question that has really bothered me for years. I have asked many people for answers and no one has been able to give one that I could accept..Although this has nothing to do with my salvation, I still would like to have an explanation that I can eccept. I first thought about pming a couple of you ,but it may be a good open forum question.

Jesus was buried just before sunset on the day of preparation for the Sabbath on Saturday (therefore sunset Friday to sunset Saturday would be one night and one day and sunset Saturday to sunrise the first day of the week, Sundaywould be one more night. The Gospels say He was already gone when the womwn arrived just at sunrise...That adds up to two nights and one day I have already heard the explanation of there being two Sabbaths that week and that gave the extra days and night. That doesn't make sense either because the gospels all agree that the women went to the tomb on the first day of the week (Sunday)
I think an excellent explanation can be found in the following article:

Booklet > Jesus Christ: The Real Story > When Was Jesus Christ Crucified and Resurrected?
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:18 PM
 
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Thanks pab that booklet is an excellent source to go by
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