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Sweden has one of the highest birth rates in Europe. Dating there may not always look like dating here, but it happens. Women there definitely ask men out. So do women here, but not as much.
I think women are more than happy with the current arrangement where men ask out women. It's easier wait for men to reject than go and risk rejection by men.
Because women don't need to ask men out. They just need to look pretty, carry on with daily life and wait for a guy who meets their standards to ask them out.
Nope not true. Living proof here. I've said it a million times...
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Originally Posted by Enil
Indeed, women do make their own money. Which makes me wonder why the majority of men still do the paying during the dating process and men are the ones who pay the far majority of alimony.
Because men go on & on about how women being "successful" is not only not important, but even unattractive. I think it's insecurity - they want a woman to be dependent on them. Of course, that dependency will continue after divorce also.
But even successful women are much more likely to leave behind jobs to become wives & mothers than men are likely to become stay-at-home-dads. So at that point, the alimony is compensation for the career the woman gave up to create a home & care for offspring. This is only outdated as far as most women not being incapable of supporting themselves post-divorce, but still, they may have large gaps in employment & outdated skills to deal with when rejoining the workforce.
In fairness, women generally DO want signs a man will care for their needs, as the wife/mother role creates some dependency. Paying on a date has symbolism. It has nothing to do with who makes what money or getting stuff for free, but it's a matter of the man being willing to care for the woman. The men want signs the woman is nurturing, hence not caring if she's "successful". This is some sort of subconscious screening for having children, whether people want kids or not. Many stupidly conflate wealth in a man & passivity & stupidity (misconstrued as indicating "softness") in a woman for being able &/or willing to care for those needs though.
Well, I don't know. It's the norm here I think, but maybe you're in a less populated area. Of course, the key is to not have a lame profile. Most people do. This is just part of a email I got last night on OKC. This person is too far away for us to get together though:
You make me want to have a more interesting profile
Mine sucks but I haven't updated it.
You're an individual, how refreshing
How far away is that?
I'm in an open LDR and I think it's worth it. Compatible people are not a dime a dozen.
Because no girl has made a handbook for when it's okay to ask girls women out.
>Maybe she's just flirty with guys?
>Not sure if she's flirty with just me
>Maybe she just likes attention?
>Maybe she just wants my attention?
>The office is not a place to fool around in.
Men can only blame themselves. Women don't ask men out because their is an endless number of men who line up at their feet. Until men quit being suckers, this will continue.
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