Apple Campus in RTP area? (Charlotte, Raleigh: high school, to live, restaurants)
Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, CaryThe Triangle Area
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Ehhhhhhh, maybe for those folks who have 500K housing budgets like that person who just posted, or for those coming from high COL areas on the coasts, but real estate in the Triangle is increasingly becoming less affordable for a lot of people, especially working/middle class folks. There's already people from Durham who are moving out to Oxford & Henderson to escape the high rents. It's just a matter of time before more people from Wake County go out to Wilson and Rocky Mount.
I was surprised to see that comment as well that real estate is affordable.
Ehhhhhhh, maybe for those folks who have 500K-600K housing budgets like that person who just posted, or for those coming from high COL areas on the coasts, but real estate in the Triangle is increasingly becoming less affordable for a lot of people, especially working/middle class folks. There's already people from Durham who are moving out to Oxford & Henderson to escape the high rents. It's just a matter of time before more people from Wake County go out to Wilson and Rocky Mount.
You don't need a 5-600k housing budget to buy in the Triangle. Someday yes, but definitely not today.
The Triangle is still affordable compared to comparable other parts of the country. Let me know another city in the country with similar amenities, education, weather, jobs, etc of the Raleigh/Durham area that has less expensive housing.
With the way real estate prices have shot up in the Triangle in the past 3-5 years, if Apple locates a campus here the COL is going to rise and quickly. Plus, don't forget about the multiplier effect, with other companies locating to the area due to wanting to be in Apple's orbit. Look at how Austin ballooned.
We don't need them in our area. Our infrastructure cannot handle the needs they bring unless they pay their way instead of being bribed.
Other NC areas need the jobs. We do not need or want them.
Your comments continue to show a complete lack of understanding about how business and government work. As another poster stated, these companies are not going to locate their major operations in rural areas or non high tech regions...for a number of reasons. NC needs to also focus on recruiting companies to the state that are a good fit for those areas.
If you don't like how things are growing in the Triangle, why don't you move somewhere else that may be a better fit for you...like Mars?
places like Wilson, Rocky Mount, are close enough to RTP area that people can live there and still commute to RTP area. But they won't live there without high speed internet . Or they could work at home and come in to work part of the time. The draw for those places are low cost housing and small town. that might appeal to some people. There are nice modern areas in those towns .
Places farther away than 1 hour probably are not going to have RTP people there unless they work at home 100% of the time and they need high speed access for that .
Wilson is ~70 miles from RTP, and Rocky Mount is ~80. In no traffic at all, it would take well over an hour, in regular Triangle traffic much, much more. It would be like driving from Raleigh to Greensboro every day for work. Yikes! There was another recent thread discussing whether Sanford or Siler City could become bedroom communities to the Triangle. Even those seemed to be pushing the limits...
Agree completely about the draw of both kinds of communities, and the costs and infrastructure needs and wants of those looking to live or work there.
We don't need them in our area. Our infrastructure cannot handle the needs they bring unless they pay their way instead of being bribed.
Other NC areas need the jobs. We do not need or want them.
I am not sure why anyone, including myself, respond to your idiotic ramblings that derail every thread you touch.
BUT, if you had any desire to look up claims before you type your BS, you would realize how wrong you are (once again).
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Currently, a fund called the utility account helps rural parts of the state pay for infrastructure to attract businesses. That money comes from state tax revenue generated by projects' new jobs. A change for transformative projects and certain other large JDIG projects would send 10 percent of a grant to the utility account, so that each project contributes to improvements all over the state.
The best talent doesn't want to live in tired, isolated areas.
There is a reason why companies pay dearly to be in New York.
The top talent and creative class want to be in the middle of the action.
I've already wondered (if Apple comes to RTP), whether the youngish employees travelling back and forth will love & appreciate the tranquil, tree-filled different environment from Silicon Valley...
or if they'll be moaning & groaning that it's in the middle of nowhere & bashing it when they return.
Some of that exists with BofA and Wells Fargo California employees doing stints in Charlotte.
Believe it or not, the overwhelming natural landscape of the Triangle even shocks me when fly home because for 10 minutes all the trees DO make you feel like you're not in any way close to a city.
Wilson is too close to the Triangle to become a hotspot in itself.
My native Franklin County has a group trying to bring broadband to the even more rural Northern half.
I don't know what the answer is, but with collapsing cellular data rates and the 5G phenomena (wifi several miles wide), aren't these viable and less costly solutions?
I'm keeping my fingers crossed about Apple. This would really be prestigious for the area and increase worldwide recognition.
There are ways to help improve job opportunities for rural areas in NC, like having high-speed municipal broadband networks. However, Republicans in the NC legislature blocked other cities/counties from making their own high speed regional networks. IIRC, Wilson NC has been the only city in NC to offer its own high speed Internet network. People who work remotely (among others) would benefit greatly from having high speed internet in rural (low cost of living) counties in NC
Wilson would love to have Thom Tillis’ head on a silver platter. He’s the one who largely responsible for that ban during his days in the General Assembly after Time Warner went to him and lobbied heavily for that ban once people started leaving TW for Wilson’s Greenlight service. Wilson had plans to expand it’s service to 5 surrounding counties before the FCC’s initial ruling (in favor of Wilson) was overturned by a federal appeals court.
The fact that Tillis got elected to the US Senate blows my mind. The same people that sent him to the Senate are the same ones he screwed. So much for the GOP looking out for rural counties.
Look, when IBM and Nortel moved thousands of New Yorkers and Canadians, respectively, to the Triangle between 1965 and 1990, there certainly were some who disliked it after they got here. There were others who outright refused to relocate. But 10 years after the original relo programs ended, the majority of IBM and Nortel employees in the Triangle had been hired here. They weren't relocations, or at least they weren't relocations from the original HQ sites. And some New Yorkers and Canadians who did relocate decided that they liked it here.
And so it will be with Apple.
Nortel relocated me here from Atlanta in 1986. I thought the Triangle was the sticks and that we'd stay here for no longer than 3 years. On her first trip to Raleigh, my wife literally cried when she saw downtown. But we decided we liked it after all, and in retrospect it was a smart decision to come here. RTP is full of those anecdotes, including a lot of Cisco people who relo'd from Apple's neighborhood.
NC rural areas and small towns do need jobs. The problem is Apple, Amazon, etc are not going to put high paying tech jobs in those areas. For one thing tech workers are not going to move to a place like Kinston or Duplin county for a job. The same is true for every other state.
Exactly. Manufacturing-type jobs are better suited to those areas.
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