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[*]Fine, we all start life and have to go to school and learn so we can one day get a job, but does it have to be 8 hours a day? Does it have to be 12 grades and then college? Seems too much of our life is wasted sitting down somewhere for nothing. You take a high school graduate vs a dropout and they both end up working at the same McDonalds - no difference. You see my point?[*]We either go to college or not and get a job and we still end up working 40 hours a week and some of us that have kids and families etc hardly have anytime to be together. Why does it matter what you degree you get or what career you follow if you don't have time to enjoy life? Who cares if you like your job or not, the point is that you dont have a choice - you need the money. Why cant we work less hours in america, what is so bad about a 30 hour work week like they have in Europe?
Generally, the people who don't have college degrees have a much higher chance at ending up in low-paying jobs like those at McDonalds. The point of the degree is to position yourself to earn more money and enjoy a living standard which is better than one meal a day and constant worry about bill collectors. And more often than not, higher education enables people to do this.
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[*]At home you watch TV and get "entertained" by channels like CNN, Fox and MSNBC. You pay for 500 channels on either cable or satellite and most of them are crap, like home shopping or garbage. Then you have mindless reality TV shows that they spoon feed to us because apparently we americans are easy to entertain. Only good channels nowadays are like Discovery channel. But in reality we watch tons of commercials and have no choice in the matter - why cant we opt out like we can with "do not call" lists? Why cant we opt out for junk mail that we have to pay to throw away?
Here's a better idea: why don't you pitch the idiot box and spend more time outside or read a book?
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[*]Why are these damn gas prices going up and down all the time? Why cant they charge 18-wheelers the most money for gas instead and just pass that cost down to the goods being sold?
Maybe if you went for that college degree that you dismissed, you could take Economics courses and learn the answer for yourself.
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[*]Yes we still have a few freedoms left in america. But most though are going away slowly, like smoking in public, going on a plane without getting nude first, text messaging at a red light or using a phone in a car while driving (like the cops do). Running a stop sign that really didn't belong there in the first place - just because some idiot put it there. Then you have red light cameras everywhere. In other words we dont have the benefit of the doubt anymore, no more discretion. It's: You are guilty by default. OK maybe the stop sign thing was stupid to mention, but you get the idea.[/list]
Yes, stop sign was stupid to mention. They are there for public safety; if you run them, you absolutely deserve to get punished. I have no problem with high security going into airplanes since there are a bunch of idiots who want to sneak explosives onto them. I also don't mind smoking bans since second-hand smoke impacts others' health. Smoke at home away from others if you want to.
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More power to you, but I am sure one day you will feel trapped or lost.
Fine, we all start life and have to go to school and learn so we can one day get a job, but does it have to be 8 hours a day? Does it have to be 12 grades and then college? Seems too much of our life is wasted sitting down somewhere for nothing. You take a high school graduate vs a dropout and they both end up working at the same McDonalds - no difference. You see my point?
We either go to college or not and get a job and we still end up working 40 hours a week and some of us that have kids and families etc hardly have anytime to be together. Why does it matter what you degree you get or what career you follow if you don't have time to enjoy life? Who cares if you like your job or not, the point is that you dont have a choice - you need the money. Why cant we work less hours in america, what is so bad about a 30 hour work week like they have in Europe?
The little time we have to be at home, we either go out to eat and pay outrageous prices, or watch a movie or two at a theater and waste $50 to $100+ and to top it off we have to watch stupid commercials.
Everywhere you go you are reminded that you can't be fat, you have to be physically fit, eat healthy and join a gym and of course watch out for terrorists.
At home you watch TV and get "entertained" by channels like CNN, Fox and MSNBC. You pay for 500 channels on either cable or satellite and most of them are crap, like home shopping or garbage. Then you have mindless reality TV shows that they spoon feed to us because apparently we americans are easy to entertain. Only good channels nowadays are like Discovery channel. But in reality we watch tons of commercials and have no choice in the matter - why cant we opt out like we can with "do not call" lists? Why cant we opt out for junk mail that we have to pay to throw away?
Why are these damn gas prices going up and down all the time? Why cant they charge 18-wheelers the most money for gas instead and just pass that cost down to the goods being sold?
Why is music like rap music ruined by going "bubble gum"? Why cant anything pure be kept that way instead of being commercialized to make the most money?
Credit cards are evil and you should never get one. Also if you can never finance a car, instead save up and buy it cash if you can. Thanks to Reagan we now need credit to survive but we don't have to own everything we see in those commercials we are paying to see. Anything that comes with fine print is bad. Bastards.
There is nothing wrong with gambling, playing lotto, smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol or even certain drugs like marijuana. As long as things are done with moderation - we as a society don't need to be told not to do these things or be taught they are bad. These are social things and they should not be frowned on or limited.
Yes we still have a few freedoms left in america. But most though are going away slowly, like smoking in public, going on a plane without getting nude first, text messaging at a red light or using a phone in a car while driving (like the cops do). Running a stop sign that really didn't belong there in the first place - just because some idiot put it there. Then you have red light cameras everywhere. In other words we dont have the benefit of the doubt anymore, no more discretion. It's: You are guilty by default. OK maybe the stop sign thing was stupid to mention, but you get the idea.
You are reading this and you either AGREE or probably think I am crazy. It's OK if you think I am crazy because maybe you are OK with the way things are in life. More power to you, but I am sure one day you will feel trapped or lost.
Think about all this, when you are a senior citizen, none of what you did in school or did for a living will matter except that you have people around you that love you. Of course and that you have some money put away to spend $100 at the movies with your grand kids. That's all you need in the end, love, just like John Lennon said.
I can tell your not old . Because all those familiy members are too busy doing all the other things you mentioned, including working well over 40 hr.s so others can sit on their butts collect welfare . or on the high end , fly around in jets and make waiters out of war torn soldiers or start more wars and bring in more foreign enemies .
No tv it's become too repulsive to stomach , between the smart mouth little brats militant women and the dumbed down men it's too much .
I have learned to do without so many things. Food, clothing, shelter, and nature provide me with the basics. I am not a goody goody, but I do save up for hedonistic binges. No smoking, no TV except for DVD's, I shop the underground market (thrift shops dent cans). Health is my main concern. I binge in Las Vegas mainly, eating gourmet meals, and shooting a little dice. Stress reduction matters most. Avoid toxic people, and toxic environments. "Bad" is anything that drains our vital energies, be it physical, emotional, or spiritual.
Well Peter Pan 'just kidding' how do you get rid of toxic people, and when you do who will stop the insanety when you light down in Neitherland ?
All this new age mentality about things can be toxic to your health too you know .
put things into perspective - not that long ago, your ancestors were probably complaining that they only got 1.5 hours of sleep per night for fear that they'd have their skulls caved in by their enemies as they slept.
Generally, the people who don't have college degrees have a much higher chance at ending up in low-paying jobs like those at McDonalds. The point of the degree is to position yourself to earn more money and enjoy a living standard which is better than one meal a day and constant worry about bill collectors. And more often than not, higher education enables people to do this.
Here's a better idea: why don't you pitch the idiot box and spend more time outside or read a book?
Maybe if you went for that college degree that you dismissed, you could take Economics courses and learn the answer for yourself.
Yes, stop sign was stupid to mention. They are there for public safety; if you run them, you absolutely deserve to get punished. I have no problem with high security going into airplanes since there are a bunch of idiots who want to sneak explosives onto them. I also don't mind smoking bans since second-hand smoke impacts others' health. Smoke at home away from others if you want to.
Don't bet on it.
I'm going to have to roll another cigarett after this . Plus sense the non smoking nazis made my cigs cost more than a nice night out I have to use pipe tobacco now and tailor mades are out of the question !
But even more scairy than my cigarett is sitting in a chair after a far lefty has sat in it . The sexual revolution took away my right to peace of mind .
[list=1][*]Fine, we all start life and have to go to school and learn so we can one day get a job, but does it have to be 8 hours a day? Does it have to be 12 grades and then college? Seems too much of our life is wasted sitting down somewhere for nothing. You take a high school graduate vs a dropout and they both end up working at the same McDonalds - no difference.
This brings up an important point, though I'm not sure how I'd get around it. I've often thought about the fact that during my grade school, high school and college years, I overcame my natural urge to be out enjoying life, and instead trained my body and mind to sit and study all day. Then I joined the work world and 40 hours a week wasn't enough: you have to "prove" how dedicated you were by being there 50 or more hours a week (not paid by the hour, naturally). My Dad's 9 to 5 work day (with an hour off for lunch), became 8:30 to 5:30 with a half-hour for lunch when we entered the job market, and now the work day for my husband is 6:00 am until about 6 pm at night, with lunch some days. Yet wages have stagnated since the 1970s.
I think businesses eventually will realize that they don't need to minimize their numbers of workers, while maximizing the hours each remaining employee works. That's bad for society and for the employees. This philosophy came from the idea that more employees meant higher costs in benefits, but that was before employees starting charging us for our employer-selected health insurance.
And Obamacare, penalizing employers financially for having a certain number of employees, and of course a step in the opposite direction--but once the new costs start to be realized, and the new taxes hit an already-crushed economy, that will have to be abandoned as a failed approach to fixing the very-real problems of health care affordability.
I agree with some of the OP (assuming OP means original post?)
School does go for too long, but its not just a way to "educate" us, its a way to keep high schoolers out of trouble during the day, and is almost like a "day care".
College is where the actualy learning is.
I think apprenticeships should come back more, but thats just me....
Life's life, if we weren't all insane, we'd commit suicide...
Seriously, how would you know that they were not happy? I bet they were!
I didn't say they weren't happy. I'm saying they lived very hard working lives. One of my ancestors was working as a cotton weaver when she was only 12 years old! Compared to them, my life is pretty darn easy so why complain? As for happiness, life is what you make of it.
Also, I don't know where you're getting your info from but I'm living in Europe and 30 hours a week is not consider full time work. Full time work is a minimum of 35 hours, most work more.
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