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Drivel. The Tea Party started in 2007. The president was white.
And they aren't talking about rolling back any programs. They don't want any NEW prgrams or any NEW taxes. See the difference?
And they paid for the social security and medicare. Not their grandkids. They got a right to want to protect it.
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The people who are collecting Socialism Security benefits today are receiving way more money out of it than they contributed. If this were not true then the program would not be paying out more than it takes in. Please explain how someone who contributed $300 or $400 per month to Socialism Security while they were working and are receiving $800 or $1000 a month today in Socialism Security benefits today are getting out what they put in?
Also explain how someone who is 62 years old, fat, diabetic with heart issues with emphysema from years of smoking; has had a triple bypass and is on dialysis is being treated under Medicare for the same $150 a month that they contributed while they were working? These people are bankrupting America far faster than giving general healthcare to 5 year olds ever would. But the anti-Healthcare Reform crowd is a bunch of greedy, selfish old s-o-b-s.
Further, the Tea Party did not protest the destructive policies and decision making of George W Bush. It was not until John McCain lost his bid for the White House that the Tea Party movement mobilized against what they feared most....a Black President of the United States.
The Tea Party people are the ones who have "no problem" with Black people as long as they stay in "their own neighborhoods", don't date/marry their daughter, and they don't have to hire them.
Drivel. The Tea Party started in 2007. The president was white.
That's funny, the people around here say they've been organizing for almost 10 years.
Not to mention, Mr. Santelli didn't opt to blow his lid until early 2009 when the mortgage modification program was being started/announced.
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Originally Posted by OhioIstheBest
And they aren't talking about rolling back any programs. They don't want any NEW prgrams or any NEW taxes. See the difference?
So all their talk about cutting spending is just hot air, then?
Furthermore, does that mean that they'll be giving back their Medicare Part D benefits, since they didn't want them? They certainly didn't pay for them.
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Originally Posted by OhioIstheBest
And they paid for the social security and medicare. Not their grandkids. They got a right to want to protect it.
They didn't pay for these programs, they paid into them. See the difference?
Their grandkids are most certainly paying their benefits currently. Current retirees' money paid for the people in these programs in the past, did it not? For example: Medicare didn't start until 1965. Whose money do you think paid for the first few years of benefits? People currently working, or the people already retired?
Also, anyone who was old enough to be working prior to 1965 didn't pay into Medicare for 100% of their working lives, now did they? Should their Medicare benefits be reduced by a % based on the # of years they didn't contribute prior to Medicare's inception? Or should they just be satisfied they met the "10-year requirement" and continue to draw out far more than they put in?
Funny thing about your poll is that it doesn't mention the income levels/net worth or educational attainment of the respondents. These missing data are important. After all, someone with an IQ of 80 can seem like a genius to someone with an IQ of 50. Someone who finished high school can seem "highly educated" to someone who only finished grade school. Someone with a net worth of $50k can seem wealthy to someone with a net worth of $30K.
The fact that the Tea Party crowd looks up to Sarah Palin (IQ=30, attended 5 different colleges over 6 years) demonstrates this phenomenon very well.
q49 Some people say Barack Obama's policies are moving the country more toward socialism. Do you think Barack Obama's policies are moving the country more toward socialism, or are his policies not moving the country in that direction?
First column of number is ALL respondents (surprised the general public # is so high), second column is Tea Party.
Did the pollsters ask the respondents whether they thought social security is a form of socialism? And did they ask whether they thought social security should be abolished?
First column of number is ALL respondents (surprised the general public # is so high), second column is Tea Party.
Here's another nice little nugget from the poll. Bringing into question just how educated your average teabagger really is..
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Some defended being on Social Security while fighting big government by saying that since they had paid into the system, they deserved the benefits. Others could not explain the contradiction.
“That’s a conundrum, isn’t it?” asked Jodine White, 62, of Rocklin, Calif. “I don’t know what to say. Maybe I don’t want smaller government. I guess I want smaller government and my Social Security.”She added, “I didn’t look at it from the perspective of losing things I need. I think I’ve changed my mind".
Here's another nice little nugget from the poll. Bringing into question just how educated your average teabagger really is..
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“That’s a conundrum, isn’t it?” asked Jodine White, 62, of Rocklin, Calif. “I don’t know what to say. Maybe I don’t want smaller government. I guess I want smaller government and my Social Security.” She added, “I didn’t look at it from the perspective of losing things I need. I think I’ve changed my mind".
^ Don't be fooled, this is not a true fiscal conservative. I don't know what kind of clown said that, and still associates his/her self with the tea party, but it is a joke.
That article is written in an awkward way too... It as if they attempted to be unbiased, but couldn't hold back from tossing in a few liberal skews here and there.
Aside from that, no surprise here that the average tea partier was found to be more educated and wealthy than the average citizen.
Funny thing about your poll is that it doesn't mention the income levels/net worth or educational attainment of the respondents. These missing data are important. After all, someone with an IQ of 80 can seem like a genius to someone with an IQ of 50. Someone who finished high school can seem "highly educated" to someone who only finished grade school. Someone with a net worth of $50k can seem wealthy to someone with a net worth of $30K.
The fact that the Tea Party crowd looks up to Sarah Palin (IQ=30, attended 5 different colleges over 6 years) demonstrates this phenomenon very well.
I always say the very same thing. It's all relative. You cannot possibly be above average intelligence and think that Palin the shrew is worthy of any leadership role.
Tea party supporters are wealthier and more well-educated than the general public, tend to be Republican, white, male, and married, and their strong opposition to the Obama administration is more rooted in political ideology than anxiety about their personal economic situation, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.
Poll Finds Tea Party Backers Wealthier and More Educated - NYTimes.com
Let me see, that must make the critics, democrats, minorities, poorly educated, female or maybe somewhere in between, divorced,in favor of Oboma, no knowledge of politics and a deep anxiety of their personal economic situation. Seems right to me!!
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