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Yeah those poor teachers......they got it so tough, lets not try to hold them accountable or raise expectations.
Please, hold me accountable! Send in peers, experts (not politicans!), ask the parents of the children I teach, check my knowledge, gauge my abilities. Do not judge me ONLY on the performance of the students (as senate bill 6 in florida would have done).
Analogy for those who talk about the private sector:
BMW puts out a product (in my case the quality of education)
They are rated on that quality. NOT on how the people drive the car! I should be rated on what I do; not with what others do with it. Judge me the way they judge the private sector and I will make a killing!
All for performance pay!!! I perform great. My students, on the other hand, perform to their abilities, desires, situations and a myriad of other factors I can't determine or ever influence.
Please, hold me accountable! Send in peers, experts (not politicans!), ask the parents of the children I teach, check my knowledge, gauge my abilities. Do not judge me ONLY on the performance of the students (as senate bill 6 in florida would have done).
Analogy for those who talk about the private sector:
BMW puts out a product (in my case the quality of education)
They are rated on that quality. NOT on how the people drive the car! I should be rated on what I do; not with what others do with it. Judge me the way they judge the private sector and I will make a killing!
All for performance pay!!! I perform great. My students, on the other hand, perform to their abilities, desires, situations and a myriad of other factors I can't determine or ever influence.
I do not question YOUR credentials. My concern is HOW do we grade teachers. Every other job in america has some sort of job performance evaluation. Our children are graduating without being able to read the diploma.
You may or may not be the exception. How do we find out?
Well teachers are doing something wrong!
Cause we have alot of dumb students graduating from H.S. that cant read or write.....time for the teachers and the Board of Ed to be held accountable.................AND PARENTS!
Teacher's salaries MUST be tied to performance, just like every other job in the world.
Hello? Banking industry????
I think we can all agree on that much at least. The only real issue is how best to MEASURE that performance. Obviously the proposal has some flaws. Most notably I think all the teachers will be fighting over the honors students if test scores are individual based and fighting over the good schools if test scores are school based.
If I were still teaching, I'd simply leave the profession. Because I'm not going to have my salary at stake over some kid(s) who don't do their work and the lazy parents who don't make them.
It is a good start to break up the communistic style pay system and welcome teachers to the world the rest of us inhabit. Once they are there then we can work on how to better measure performance.
So you want to change the system, but have no idea how to evaluate them. Where is the sense in this?
If you want to base teacher performance on pay, then teachers should get constant video cameras in class. If the teacher is doing their job and there are problem students in the class. The kids are removed and the parents pay extra money for wasting everyone else's time.
Hold all people accountable, don't just villify teachers who are already fighting an uphill battle.
I do not question YOUR credentials. My concern is HOW do we grade teachers. Every other job in america has some sort of job performance evaluation. Our children are graduating without being able to read the diploma.
You may or may not be the exception. How do we find out?
A lot of people on here think it can be strictly based on test results. Do you think thats fair?
It needs to be comprehensive, I'd like to think biweekly class evals would be fair to monitor instructional efforts, and I think the class should be videotaped, in order to establish the cause of problems and where class time is lost. That will weed out the bad teachers easily enough, and we can hold difficult kids and slacker parents accountable because there is evidence.
I do not question YOUR credentials. My concern is HOW do we grade teachers. Every other job in america has some sort of job performance evaluation. Our children are graduating without being able to read the diploma.
You may or may not be the exception. How do we find out?
Look at your child if he/she can't read a diploma.
To judge a teacher by the children she is teaching is so unfair.
Did the parent ever read to the child?
Does the parent ever talk to and listen to the child?
Does the parent ever laugh with the child?
Does the parent bother to attend parent teacher conferences?
Does the parent make sure the child is doing homework?
Is the child eating right?
Is the child getting enough sleep?
Is the child listening to parents fight and scream at each other?
Is the child left alone so the parents can relax in front of the TV or computer?
Does the child have to watch you get high or drunk every weekend?
Does the child constantly have to play second fiddle to your "new" mate that could care less about him?
Do you ever get up on Sunday morning and take the child to Church?
Don't blame it on the teachers, they are just the people who are trying to TEACH your poor neglected child.
What if there were some kind of Nationalized Aptitude Test for Teachers? They have all kinds of tests for kids to determine how well and how much they've learned.
Should be simple enough to test the teachers for their ability to teach their chosen subjects. Those that do well should be given raises. Those that score too low should be sent back for retraining and then retested.
If they fail or score too low upon a second pass at the test, they need to be relieved of their teaching duties.
Disclosure: I'm a retired English Teacher. I retired due to the fact that I went blind.
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