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Old 03-28-2010, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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We have Forum Health locally, the owner of three hospitals who recently filed bankruptcy and discussions involve possible closing all of them.

Northside Medical Center, Trumbull Memorial Hospital and Hillside Rehabilitation Hospital

Have to wonder where this is going to lead with further cuts in medicare and now an incentive for people to drop their insurance to "pay a fine"..
Who needs hospitals anyway? Dump the sick poor into a large dumpster.
No need to fret, the rich will always find medical care. That's the main thing, ain't it.
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Old 03-28-2010, 04:56 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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This article from the San Jose Mercury News seems to indicate that the local public hospitals feel that they will be better off with the new health care bill as it would reduce the number of uninsured patients they'd have to treat:

http://http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_14734742?source=most_emailed (http://http//www.mercurynews.com/ci_14734742?source=most_emailed - broken link)

From the article:

Clinics and hospital emergency rooms around Santa Clara and San Mateo counties have been increasingly flooded with the uninsured who often wait until a treatable condition becomes life threatening, putting a strain not just on people's health but on the health care system's ability to treat them and pay for their care.



Before Sunday's landmark health care vote, "all county health departments in California were facing an endless downward slide with no bottom in sight," said Jean Fraser, chief of the San
Mateo County Health System, who estimates the bill would cover 67,000 uninsured county residents. "We still have several very challenging years ahead of us and we will work hard to maintain a safety net for our uninsured, but at least we now have an end in sight."With the health care law, she said, "we feel like we're bridging a gap rather than falling into a hole."


At the Gardner Family Health Network, which includes St. James Health Center, about 40 percent of their 35,000 patients are uninsured. At Valley Medical Center in San Jose, run by Santa Clara County, 84 percent of patients who come into the emergency department are uninsured. The number of people using the emergency room has doubled from 200 daily in 2006 to an average of 400 today, spiking to nearly 500 on some days.
"That indicates that people have lost their insurance and are waiting to seek treatment when otherwise they could have sought care earlier," said Sylvia Gallegos, acting director of the Santa Clara Valley Health System. "While the legislation isn't perfect, we certainly welcome it."
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Old 03-28-2010, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Re: Happy Texan's links:

#1: Stated reason is long-standing financial problems

#2: Result of belt-tightening that happened in the past

#3: Decreased pt. volume since October

#4: Ongoing cost-cutting initiative

#5: Sluggish economy, cuts in Medicare/Medicaid

#6: A nursing home, financial reasons, no further explanation given

#7: No reason given

#8: Not enough patients, plus an increase in pts w/o insurance or can't afford deductibles/co-pays

#9: Economic downturn, changes in reimbursement and improvement in out-pt care.

Also of note, most of these are small hospitals, with a couple exceptions
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Old 03-28-2010, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The telegraph, Newsmax for England
The hospital doesn't plan to close?
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Old 03-28-2010, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Re: Happy Texan's links:

#1: Stated reason is long-standing financial problems

#2: Result of belt-tightening that happened in the past

#3: Decreased pt. volume since October

#4: Ongoing cost-cutting initiative

#5: Sluggish economy, cuts in Medicare/Medicaid

#6: A nursing home, financial reasons, no further explanation given

#7: No reason given

#8: Not enough patients, plus an increase in pts w/o insurance or can't afford deductibles/co-pays

#9: Economic downturn, changes in reimbursement and improvement in out-pt care.

Also of note, most of these are small hospitals, with a couple exceptions
Now many hospitals are ok today..but can they continue to be ok for 4 more years ?
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Old 03-28-2010, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Now many hospitals are ok today..but can they continue to be ok for 4 more years ?
Well, who knows? Hospitals fortunes come and go.
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Old 03-28-2010, 06:01 PM
 
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You working in England?
England is one of the countries here that many want our healthcare system to emulate, is it not?
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Old 03-28-2010, 06:02 PM
 
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. . . and it's only been going on since Jan 21, 2009!
Ridicule all you want but that just shows ones ability to discuss things intelligently. No one said anything about this being Obamas fault.
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Old 03-28-2010, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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England is one of the countries here that many want our healthcare system to emulate, is it not?
Frankly, I don't think so, and that's not what is happening now.
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Old 03-28-2010, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Gordon Brown should blame Bush. It'll probably work. England's citizens were naive enough to lay down their arms nationwide over a few shootings, so they'll be naive enough to eat that garbage up too.
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