Conservatives and Republicans today suffered their most crushing legislative defeat since the 1960s. (regular, dollars)
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Good. These frustrated doctors can become waitresses. We'll see how long that lasts.
Let those wanting to be doctors, be doctors. That's the free market in operation.
What a cavalier attitude. And when the market is flooded with "waitresses", who will you see about your medical condition when you have to wait 6 months or more for a doctor? Will you be able to go consult your local "waitress or waiter"?
It's not "frustrated doctors" it's the cost of running a medical practice, and making a living and paying your bills, not to mention employees' salaries and malpractice insurance etc. You can't do that on a waiter's wages, can you.
This is a great day in history. No longer will people with preexisting conditions be shackled to an Employer to just retain minimum coverage. Insurance rates have skyrocketed every year.
HELLO? They arent NOW, HIPPA laws removed the shackle to employer to retain coverage.. PASSED BY REPUBLICANS, and signed by Clinton..
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Originally Posted by Buckhorn
Basic coverage has become catastrophic coverage by virtue of the high deductibles (which lower the cost of coverage for the year).
Any facts to back this up because numerous regular visits are required to be covered by insurance companies... Considering you didnt have a clue about paragraph 1, I doubt you have a clue here either.
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How did the democrats stomp the constitution into the ground with the passage of this moderate law?
Moderate law? You didnt just say that seriously did you?
I dont know about you but I'm at a doctors visit 1-2 times a year, which comes to $200. You cant afford that but you can afford the new taxes in this bill which is 3-4 times this amount?
more whining and crying.. I cant afford $200 a year!!!!
Sucks to be you I guess... There is always welfare
I've asked this question on these boards over and over again: How much does one have to save to cover a family of 4 for many years, being prepared for when something does go wrong with your health.
Nobody was able to provide any concrete answer. Oh thank you - $200 a year and that's all I have to afford! Wow, if only all of us were that smart to figure this out so quickly. I mean if I only knew it would cost me 200/year why would I (and millions of other 'deceived') so stupidly be paying thousands and thousands of dollars into private health insurance plans over the years, using services rarely (and paying for most routine care out of pocket), but just paying all those premiums/copays/deductibles in hopes that should anything happen you won't be stuck with that huge snowball of bills that would make your mortgage you house.
I've asked this question on these boards over and over again: How much does one have to save to cover a family of 4 for many years, being prepared for when something does go wrong with your health.
The question is unanaswerable because no one knows what illness your family will face. This is why you have INSURANCE.
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Originally Posted by KT13
Nobody was able to provide any concrete answer. Oh thank you - $200 a year and that's all I have to afford! Wow, if only all of us were that smart to figure this out so quickly. I mean if I only knew it would cost me 200/year why would I (and millions of other 'deceived') so stupidly be paying thousands and thousands of dollars into private health insurance plans over the years, using services rarely (and paying for most routine care out of pocket), but just paying all those premiums/copays/deductibles in hopes that should anything happen you won't be stuck with that huge snowball of bills that would make your mortgage you house.
Thats not even close to what I said.
I pay about $200 a year out of pocket for DOCTOR VISITS. I'm not turning these minimum expenses to the insurance companies to pay because I want my costs to stay down. You are now relating regular doctor visits to medical health insurance costs which are not the same.
Reading comprehension.. Try it, you wont look so ridiculous..
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I feel really great this morning! I could not feel better if I won the lottery! Not that I care that much about this bill- I don't because I am for a single payer "all pay all play" system- but it so great to hear the cons on the AM dial scream, spit and cry. The right has been kicking us in the teeth for 10 years and it is great to see them on the losing side for a change!
What a cavalier attitude. And when the market is flooded with "waitresses", who will you see about your medical condition when you have to wait 6 months or more for a doctor? Will you be able to go consult your local "waitress or waiter"?
It's not "frustrated doctors" it's the cost of running a medical practice, and making a living and paying your bills, not to mention employees' salaries and malpractice insurance etc. You can't do that on a waiter's wages, can you.
I'm sorry but the cavalier attitude starts with you and your position re selfish little doctors picking up their ball and going home if they don't get their way. Dream on about your 6 month waiting list for treatment. Ain't gonna happen. $179,000/year is nothing to sneeze at and these docs won't forgo that cash to make a principled point.
Another part of the problem of high health care costs is that the uninsured treated in emergency rooms have their costs passed on to the rest of us. .. $10 aspirin happens this way... True universal care would really fix that. Under Obama's plan, the wider insurable pool created by the legislation will likely have a modifiying effect on prices.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by janelle144
Wait until Nov. Then we will see defeat like none other. Dems going down to defeat. But then they won't need to worry since they didn't put themselves on universal health care.
I feel really great this morning! I could not feel better if I won the lottery! Not that I care that much about this bill- I don't because I am for a single payer "all pay all play" system- but it so great to hear the cons on the AM dial scream, spit and cry. The right has been kicking us in the teeth for 10 years and it is great to see them on the losing side for a change!
Wrong reason to celebrate. Says a lot. But, you are correct. We are on the losing side. We ALL are on the losoing side, except some of you don't realize it yet. It's not the left against the right, or the right against the left. It's the government against the people. Do you not SEE the trend?
What does it cost to provide the infrastructure, ie...streets, education, funding, buildings, teachers, services, ect to educate any doctor, nurse or health professional? How many State and Federal Taxpayer funded subsidies pay for building and supporting our Hospitals, Universities, Research Facilities, Medicines, ect.?
What do you suppose it really cost to care for the illnesses and needs of the "Most Wealthy and Best Insured"?
Do you think that they, or their Insurance companies, pay for the total costs involved in their care? Do you believe that their actual health care needs and costs are not subsidized and paid for by all of the rest of us?
I suspect that like most all else, the rich get more advantages than they pay for. The real handouts in this country go to the rich,.. always have and maybe always will. The put in relatively little of worth and take out the most benefits, if not all. They do this and more. They buy their Republican political hacks to distort and spin the truth in order to put their own free ride greed off onto others.
Health Care Reform?.... We don't need no stinking health care reform. Just ask the Rich, the Insurance companies, Big Pharma, or the Republiclan Party..
Not one single vote by the Greedy Liar Republicans for Insurance Industry Reform. That about says it all.
Freedoms Lost?....The only freedoms lost here are the freedoms of the Insurance companies to defraud by collecting premiums then denying coverage when needed in order to profit by ripping people off, the freedom of your boss to take advantage of you because you cannot quit or change your job without losing your current health insurance, and maybe, the freedom of the rich to continue to benefit from THE BEST taxpayer subsidized and reduced cost health care in the world.
Frum is a slimy socialist snake,not only a RINO but a Trojan of "progressives "in the GOP...
I wonder how some people are so naive that they don't understand that the socialist snake actually is GLAD that the law passed...
It's time for the Reps to do internal house cleaning,now that the masks have fallen...
And get rid of Froms & Powells...
As for those who celebrate,the "rich " will make the surtax by firing progressive employees...
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