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Veteran reporter, Kathy Gannon, with a record of independent reporting on Afghanistan going back to October 2001, noted that the Taliban fighting foreign forces in Marja are villagers.(2) She also provided rare details on victims of foreign forces there: Musa Jan’s home was hit by an aircraft around February 16th killing five occupants inside including children; Sayed Lal was outside in a field with a friend when he was shot by foreign soldiers. Assadullah, 22, was riding his motorcycle when the Americans fired at him shattering his arm; Abdul Hamid, 12, was in front of his home when raiding foreign forces arrived,
…they were running and shooting. I tried to get back in my house, but they shot me in the leg, and there were more bullets, and they shot me again in the belly. Near me some other people fell into a canal. They called a plane and they bombarded.
Its funny how we consider some of these troops heroes when they attack the civilians for no freaking reason. Not all troops are like that but there's a huge number who don't care about the civilians.
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And what is reported in the mainstream western press? For the first two months of 2010, the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission’s Fareed Hamidi trumpeted a dip in civilian deaths, announcing for all those willing to listen that 71 civilians had died at the hand of Afghan and foreign forces.(5)The UN naturally parroted this gross under-count. In fact, as I reported, foreign forces alone killed 150-156 Afghan civilians during the first two months of 2010.(6) In other words, the AIHRC only counts one in two Afghan civilians killed by foreign forces. Another font of propaganda, the Soros-bankrolled Open Society Institute, reassured its readers that protecting civilians and protecting troops in Afghanistan was part of the “new” counterinsurgency-style offensive.(7)
I wonder why this did not get reported in CNN or Fox News, the western news channels are only good in informing its citizens of what the Taliban do. They dont look at what their own soldiers do.
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In 2008, the UNAMA captured about 70% of Afghans killed by foreign forces, but in 2009 the figure was under 40%, justifiably earning UNAMA’s performance as being faith-based (or ideologically-inspired) counting. Sadly, ‘groupies’ like the western media, peace groups and even the World Socialist Web Site (wsws) uncritically go about citing spurious UNAMA figures, for example endlessly mentioning that Afghan civilian deaths caused by “coalition forces” have declined: naturally they have since the UNAMA missed only 30% of such deaths in 2008, but 60% in 2009.
Thats another reason why a lot of westerners have a bias knowledge about Afghanistan, the Taliban, and the Afghans themselves.
The United Nations has accused the Taliban of causing far more civilian casualties than NATO and Afghan forces.
A report released Wednesday by the UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA) concluded the Taliban had killed 1,630 civilians in 2009 — a staggering 40 per cent increase from one year earlier.
Well they don't have the technological advancments that NATO/US have, so when they attack a place they try to aim at their target, they don't have planes or anything that would tell them who is at the certain place and on top of that they're still gaining support and power but on the other hand when NATO/US attack they know who they're targeting and on top of that they still kill innocent people on purpose. Nato/Us killed more children than the Taliban did, don't come up with an execuse and tell me they did not mean to, because they know who they're targeting.
I guess you were fine with the Iraq casualties since they were under Bush.
No i wasn't fine, 1 million lives were lost during his time, compared to the 200,000 that died under Saddam, they were both bad but Bush was worse, but lets not make this an iraq topic, because i don't want to go off-topic.
don't come up with an execuse and tell me they did not mean to, because they know who they're targeting
Yeah - they were targeting militants who use women and children as human shields.
The Taliban regularly exploit deaths caused by foreign and Afghan forces - are you affiliated?
There are other contridictary reports out there that you conventiently over look and do not mention. This one for instance from Afghanistan Rights Monitor release Jan 2010: Taliban-linked militants caused around 64 percent of all violent child deaths last year, the Afghanistan Rights Monitor (ARM) said in a report.
Afghan war kills three children a day: report | Raw Story (http://rawstory.com/2010/01/afghan-war-kills-children-day-report/ - broken link)
Yeah - they were targeting militants who use women and children as human shields.
Because Taliban fighters are ordinary Afghans, so sometimes they fight from their houses, its true that sometimes they use women and children as human shields but NATO/US does the same thing and no one cares lol. Its about time to be fair here, lets not be bias for once, the west have been bias for the last 9 years and it didn't help much.
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The Taliban regularly exploit deaths caused by foreign and Afghan forces - are you affiliated?
No not really man, NATO/US arrest innocent villagers at night and take them to U.S. secret prisons, sometimes they shoot random Afghans just because they have a beard, sometimes they bomb a whole village just because they get suspicious without any hard evidence, these things don't get reported but if you go to the region and discuss with the locals then you will understand the truth, also keep in mind that 150-160 Afghans have been killed in the first 2 months of 2010 by NATO/US, while US/NATO are lying to people like you by saying the civilian casulties are declining because thats not true, 150-160 people perished in 2 months, 80-86 died in Feb alone.
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There are other contridictary reports out there that you conventiently over look and do not mention. This one for instance from Afghanistan Rights Monitor release Jan 2010: Taliban-linked militants caused around 64 percent of all violent child deaths last year, the Afghanistan Rights Monitor (ARM) said in a report.
63% were killed by NATO/US, they should be ashamed because as i said most of the time NATO/US know very well who they're targeting but they don't care, if the Taliban had the same technological advancements then they would keep the casulty rate low.
Mossomo, have it ever come to your mind why the Taliban expanded and got stronger across Afghanistan in the last 5 years? If it did then you need to understand that they're getting supported by a large number of people, the 6% that was published in Abc, cnn, etc is not true, there's no way in hell only 6% of people support them, because they already have solid bases in the North where the majority is not even Pashtun.
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