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Old 12-07-2009, 08:31 AM
 
Location: 38°14′45″N 122°37′53″W
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it is a semantics issue for you Roy? Either way the terms are manifestations of the various degrees of screwed.
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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You sound like "end times" evangelicals.
Time will tell, I suppose.
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:33 AM
 
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I don't think I believe I in Global Warming.

I do believe in climate change though. I remember when I was like 8 or 9 (10 or 11 years ago), it used to start snowing early November. Now it is STILL sunny and warm on the 4th day of December.

Also, this summer has not been warm. Second of all, it did not start snowing up here last winter until like January and it stayed until April or May.

It does feel the like the Earth is kinda off.

Please dont think I am just some crazy liberal. I am basing this off from what I see.

...............and your observations are personal anecdotes over a relative fraction of second in geological time. Why not look at the millions of years of data generated by the fossil record? Why not? Because it refutes the notion of man-made global warming. In the cult of global warming, it is best to ignore data which threatens the cult.
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Time will tell, I suppose.
Yep, you sound exactly like them.

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Old 12-07-2009, 08:40 AM
 
Location: 38°14′45″N 122°37′53″W
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...............and your observations are personal anecdotes over a relative fraction of second in geological time. Why not look at the millions of years of data generated by the fossil record? Why not? Because it refutes the notion of man-made global warming. In the cult of global warming, it is best to ignore data which threatens the cult.
Are you referring to the ice core data?
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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...............and your observations are personal anecdotes over a relative fraction of second in geological time.
Our lives, our childrens' lives and our grandchildrens' lives occupy a relative fraction of a second in geological time. Therefore, it's far from unreasonable to be concerned about what's happening in that fraction of a second.

Yes, I read Jurassic Park. I know we can't "destroy the planet." That doesn't mean we can't make it a hellish place for humans to inhabit.
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:13 PM
 
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Here is the truth.
Well, no, but...

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Global Warming failed to capture the imagination of the worlds population. It gets cold and snows at odd times and people say "I thought it was getting warmer"? So the politicians did what politicians do and they hired focus groups to find words that capture the imagination of the populous. “Climate Change” sounded better, and provided greater latitude. Warming is bad, cooling is climate change too. Wet is change, dry is change. Change in general is opposed by human nature. Presto, new word, more people buy in.

It’s the same failed science. It is the same small set of “scientists” who control what we know about this failed science, but we have a new code word that is scary and therefore we have to do something…. Because the failed science proves it.
Do you know what the CC in IPCC stands for? Do you know when the IPCC was founded?
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:18 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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couple of years ago it was global warming, now it is climate change. it is anything that liberals and rinos can do or say to scare the people out of more money to fund their little dead horse.
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:22 PM
 
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I keep trying to figure out which they are using these days so this link really tickled me. The article starts out talking about global warming and then shifts to climate change. At any rate, it is typical MSM garbage about all the adapting we must do before climate change takes things over. A long list of the money needed to make the necessary adaptations and what some places have done, already, is near the end of the article. I hope not too many of these people are disappointed when they find that they have spent so much money unnecessarily.

Global warming may require higher dams, stilts - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091204/ap_on_sc/sci_climate_adapting - broken link)

Global Warming was "plan A"............since the planet didn't warm , Climate Change was plan B"

Since climate always "changes" they can always be right.
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:28 PM
 
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yesterday was nice.. today it snowed..were all gonna die! no really. Now gimme your money
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