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Old 11-25-2009, 10:20 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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You should try reading the link and then attack the message instead of proving your leftness by attacking the messenger. You proved zilch to any thinkers but you did have a good time, I think.

Do you think that the word Secretary appearing written like that wasn't referring to the Secretary of HHS and the rules she gets to insert to give the bill more meaning? How about Internal Service? Would there be a reason for that term to show up if they weren't collecting a tax?

You have made a cute post, now answer some of my questions. Ain't got the guts, huh?
Please read my other post (#8) really s-l-o-w and maybe you's see that I didn't attack the messenger. I made a comment about his post content being meaningless. I stand by my statement that words taken out of context and out of order are meaningless which is why I'm not going to engage in a debate with you on the meaning of random words in the health care bill. Why don't you Google the thing and see for yourself why/where those words appear instead of conjecturing on a message board?

Last edited by Wayland Woman; 11-25-2009 at 11:22 PM.. Reason: cleaning up a sentence that didn't read right
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:45 PM
 
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Jeeeeeeez Loooooooueeeeez, is that stupid. I'll bet Clinton doesn't show up there either. How about the hero himself, Teddy Kennedy? Oh, I forgot they give him credit for all that hard work he did to get something like this done.

BTW, Reagan wasn't a favorite of mine until I started doing forums and read a few lefties.
Next time I'll use footnotes
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Old 11-27-2009, 02:43 AM
 
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Why would Constitution appear in a bill like this one with 3607 shalls or shall nots? I am sure that the word Secretary written like that is referring to the Secretary of HHS and that she will have a ball making all those shalls mean what the Dems want. How about Require showing up 1025 times?

Since you are so intent on things that mean nothing why don't you tell me why in a healthcare bill the term Internal Revenue showed up 104 times? Of course, you may not even know what the only government bureau called Internal Revenue does, but in case you don't let me tell you that a tax is involved when those words show up together like that. What in hell is the reason for Internal Revenue in a health bill unless they are collecting a tax?

Nice try but you came in undressed.
Nice try regarding what? In case you didn't notice, all those words you used above don't appear in my post even once. They may be in the bill, but not in my post. I addressed one word: Constitution. Nice try, indeed.
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Old 11-27-2009, 02:58 AM
 
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So Constitution 0 is the only term you picked up on? Nice lefty attack the messenger without saying word one about the message. Did you read the link so you could attack the message or did you just scan enough to get something to attack the messenger about. Maybe you should be the first one to attack the message and prove some part of it wrong.

I can't be nice when people try to pull tricks like this. Well, anyway not one lefty has said a thing about the message, only attacked the messenger. I guess I should have cheated and wiped out the last few numbers, but I don't operate like that.
I'll write whatever I please, roy. Sorry if that gets your panties in a wad, but I don't know what to tell you.

You seem to have difficulty with words anyway. I'm not a lefty. Far from it. But this misrepresentation of yours fits right in with the point I made.

Lefty: Someone who argues with me.

Socialist: Someone I don't like.

Unconstitutional: Laws or bills I don't like.

Words do have meaning, roy. I fully understand what you mean when using lefty, socialist or unconstitutional, though it would be a lot more credible to imply negative connotations with words that actually made sense. But that's just fine with me. I don't lose any sleep over political butchering of the language. Carry on. John Boehner would be proud, but Bill Buckley is turning in his grave.
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Old 11-27-2009, 03:02 AM
 
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You did read the link so you could talk intelligently about it, didn't you?
You're not catching on. Any argument that would expect "Constitution" to be included in a bill isn't worthy of intelligent debate. Credibility, roy. That word has meaning too.
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Old 11-27-2009, 03:13 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Why would Constitution appear in a bill like this one with 3607 shalls or shall nots? I am sure that the word Secretary written like that is referring to the Secretary of HHS and that she will have a ball making all those shalls mean what the Dems want. How about Require showing up 1025 times?

Since you are so intent on things that mean nothing why don't you tell me why in a healthcare bill the term Internal Revenue showed up 104 times? Of course, you may not even know what the only government bureau called Internal Revenue does, but in case you don't let me tell you that a tax is involved when those words show up together like that. What in hell is the reason for Internal Revenue in a health bill unless they are collecting a tax?

Nice try but you came in undressed.
Is there any statistical significance to the words your linked article references compared to bills recently passed?

The list of words in that article are random and likely to be absent (or present) in any other bill regarding any other legislature.

If you want to prove your point you should go through the legislation and perform a statistically relevant linguistic analysis. Really it isn't that difficult to do. There are more then enough tools on the web that allow you to crawl though keywords on a large number of pages and would provide actual evidence.

So the burden of proof (which is pretty simple for anyone with a high school education) is in your hands. Please put my foot in my mouth.
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