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Old 11-05-2009, 03:47 PM
 
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You can play that politically correct garbage all you want.

This country should have been 100% NON-P.C. for the past 20 years here and 9/11 wouldn't have ever happened, and our southern border would be tighter.

Till I hear that he wasn't a muslim convert, or immigrant who enlisted to attack and kill Americans I'm going to assume he's a radical muslim until it's reported on all the news outlets that he was a christian missionary before he enlisted in the national guard.
"talk sense to a fool".....

I agree with LML and others. Actually, this is not really a good time for a political debate.
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:47 PM
 
Location: here
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Ok, the President spoke, but I missed it, can some one confirm that he opened with "I want to give a shout out"
he did. Kind of odd. But he was there to speak to this group about something, not having a press conference about the shootings.
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:48 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Well, you might be totally wrong in your "immediate" thinking. I agree that there having been three people involved rather than one person means probably that there was a conspiracy. I find it interesting that the other two people are being called "suspects" by the Army ......do they know for sure whether or not the other two were in fact shooting?

How about the name Billy Bob Smith? Or Abraham Lincoln Jones?

Do you have an immediate negative bias toward people with Middle Eastern names?

Did you ever think that maybe some militia guys went nuts and tried to start the "revolution"?
As a matter of fact I do not trust men with Arabic names.

They could be Americans of any ethnicity who have changed their names because they converted.

They could be random middle easterners with Arabic/Persian names, doesn't matter.

I don't trust them. People don't automatically get my trust off the bat, especially when we're at WAR and the known enemy comes from points east.

If this was the 1940's I'd probably be suspicious of Japanese and German names as well.
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:49 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Well, you might be totally wrong in your "immediate" thinking. I agree that there having been three people involved rather than one person means probably that there was a conspiracy. I find it interesting that the other two people are being called "suspects" by the Army ......do they know for sure whether or not the other two were in fact shooting?

How about the name Billy Bob Smith? Or Abraham Lincoln Jones?

Do you have an immediate negative bias toward people with Middle Eastern names?

Did you ever think that maybe some militia guys went nuts and tried to start the "revolution"?
Give me a break. You know nothing about the militia groups in this country.
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:50 PM
 
Location: The Land Mass Between NOLA and Mobile, AL
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All over this country there are cars pulling up in front of homes where people will be afraid to answer the door because they know that when they do their worst fears will be realized and their world will be turned upside down forever. There are people sitting by their phones shaking....praying for them to ring and yet afraid of them ringing. The sick, empty feeling in the pit of the stomachs of those waiting to hear is something that you can not imagine until you experience it. Can we all just pray for these people right now. Can we just realize that, right now, Army families don't give a darn about Obama OR the democrats and republicans. All they care about is their family. We can all go back to partisian politics later. Right now, let's just remember that these troops are ALL of ours.
Please listen to LML.
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:51 PM
 
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I heard the following on the news:

-he had converted to Islam

-he was considerably upset with being deployed
what are you watching? I haven't heard that.
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:51 PM
 
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The poster is wrong to absolutely assume (based on a name) before we know for sure ... but common sense would lead one to believe that it's probably the case.
If he's a Major he's been in the military a while unless he went in as a doctor - they can enlist right away as Majors.
Everyone is quick to jump on terrorists - does Tim McVey ring a bell (Oklahoma City bombing) - ex army Sgt.
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:52 PM
 
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Give me a break. You know nothing about the militia groups in this country.
Whatever.

Out of respect for LML and others here who may have relatives or other loved ones at Ft. Hood, I'll decline to get into that issue right now. I will catch you later on that.
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:52 PM
 
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You can play that politically correct garbage all you want.

This country should have been 100% NON-P.C. for the past 20 years here and 9/11 wouldn't have ever happened, and our southern border would be tighter.

Till I hear that he wasn't a muslim convert, or immigrant who enlisted to attack and kill Americans I'm going to assume he's a radical muslim until it's reported on all the news outlets that he was a christian missionary before he enlisted in the national guard.

I'm with you! I am sick of this liberal PC [MOD CUT/profanity] that is going to get a lot of people killed! I can only hope and pray that conservatives mobilize and push all these lilly livered whining PC left wingers out of every office they hold so we can reclaim some sanity in this country!

Last edited by dcsldcd; 11-05-2009 at 04:34 PM.. Reason: apology for the "cut"
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:53 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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And why would a Muslim enlist in the military (or convert to Islam when in the military) knowing they would be going to be deployed for duty?

I'll give you some ideas -

1. They're going after our men to convert them and use them against us.
2. Subversives use a tactic to destroy from the inside.
3. He was brainwashed into believing the war is over ISLAM.

Does it make sense to you at all?
What I've heard chatting with someone who lives out there is he had recently converted to islam. He was already a solder when he converted.
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