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Old 08-28-2009, 11:10 AM
 
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1 question is the debt higher now or under Bush?
1 question back then would be was the debt AND deficit higher when Slick Willie left office, or Bush43?

The current Administration was handed a huge mess, and the past POTUS walked away from it with a smile on his face and the past VP said "So?".

Our International Relations were in shambles, outsourcing rampant, our economy already on the freight train to near disaster, g'ment spending already rampant (tax rebates funded by China, wars funded by foriegn countries, and the Republican StimBill1)...

The list is long.

IF the current POTUS, AND Congress, can pull this Nation out of the ditch Bush43 and the GOP drove her into, more the better. And as long as certain policies, like UHC, don't pass into law, we should do OK.

But, ya wanna know something? The continued policy of obstructionism, snip-and-spin lies, deciet, hysteria, calls for seccession, and the power mongery of the right-wing as seen in constant, and unwarrented, calls for Impeachment only serves to make it harder for everyone.

And THAT is coming from someone who wrote in Ron Paul on his ballot.
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:11 AM
 
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Well, it's been a little over 200 days (where'd you get this talking point, bentlebee?). And it's not an "experiment". When voters elected this man President, they committed this country to his stewardship for four years. Barring an unforeseen disaster, we will all have to work together to assure that the best possible outcomes are reached during his tenure.

Nonsense! The control of the nation always remains the people's.

LII: Constitution
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:12 AM
 
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GW Bush is the worst thing that ever happened to our nation. Many Americans assumed the position, and voted for him twice. They are now seeing the fruit$ of their Labor$.

Specifically what did he do?
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:14 AM
 
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200 days - wow! Some of us lived through 2,920 days of Bush/Cheney failed experiments and we're still here. Only 2,720 more days to go for you, I guess.
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:19 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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1 question back then would be was the debt AND deficit higher when Slick Willie left office, or Bush43?

The current Administration was handed a huge mess, and the past POTUS walked away from it with a smile on his face and the past VP said "So?".

Our International Relations were in shambles, outsourcing rampant, our economy already on the freight train to near disaster, g'ment spending already rampant (tax rebates funded by China, wars funded by foriegn countries, and the Republican StimBill1)...

The list is long.

IF the current POTUS, AND Congress, can pull this Nation out of the ditch Bush43 and the GOP drove her into, more the better. And as long as certain policies, like UHC, don't pass into law, we should do OK.

But, ya wanna know something? The continued policy of obstructionism, snip-and-spin lies, deciet, hysteria, calls for seccession, and the power mongery of the right-wing as seen in constant, and unwarrented, calls for Impeachment only serves to make it harder for everyone.

And THAT is coming from someone who wrote in Ron Paul on his ballot.
yeah way to avoid

I am sick of hearing Obama was handed a mess waaaaaaa waaa waaaaaa . Obama helped create this mess you sit here and whine about Obama being handed. No one made Obama run and take the mess. Presidents deal with problems that is their job. Obama nor you get to whine about it now. Obama isnt the 1st nor will he be the last

Someone else is going to have to deal with the mess Obama is leaving. So Obama and his supporters need to suck it up

Obama walked in complaining and blaming everyone else lol yet you say it was a smile on his face of course he was smiling he just suckered half the country

lol Do you think democrats dont lie? Do you think Obama hasnt lied to you? Obama has used fear all the things you complain about republicans doing Obama and democrats are now also doing its called politics and untell we make them change its going to be the same
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:21 AM
 
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Nonsense! The control of the nation always remains the people's.

LII: Constitution
What exactly are you challenging in my statement?
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:21 AM
 
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Specifically what did he do?
War of Convinience resulting in more Iraqi deaths than those committed by Saddam, more US lives lost than 9/11, and billions wasted.

Lied to the American people and Congress to shift the balance of power to the Executive Branch, and to facillitate his War of Convinience.

Eroded, or completely overstepped, several Constitutional Rights...

There is much more, but those are more than enough for criminal Impeachment proceedings.
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:21 AM
 
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Actually, by all objective accounts, Obama's been really successful.

Economy's turning around, investments are being made, banks and Wall Street have oversight again, we're actually fighting the terrorists who attacked us, women have equal pay, he's taken politics out of science, he's rebuilt relationships around the world and forged new relationships never before imagined by an American president...

I give Obama a lot of credit for taking on health care and all the lies he has to endure by those protecting the status quo. Anyone who claims he's in it for popularity can simply look at the legislation he's pushing and see the man has a backbone to get a job done.

Good to have a strong leader again. I voted for him and, so long as he sticks to his commitment to pay down the deficit once the economy recovers, he continues to have my support.

Not an easy job to inherit that mess and still forge the nation forward in a new direction. He's exceeding my expectations.
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:23 AM
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Obama has used fear all the things you complain about republicans doing Obama and democrats are now also doing its called politics and untell we make them change its going to be the same
Nice sentence.

200 days of failed grade school
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:30 AM
 
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1 question is the debt higher now or under Bush?


If Bush hadnt been such a weak puppet and had manned up and addressed these problems instead of letting them slide on to the next guy like the pushover he is, we wouldnt have the problems we have now. What's the matter with you people, is this hard to understand?
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