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Old 08-28-2009, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Actually, by all objective accounts, Obama's been really successful.
This has to be the funniest thing I've read all day, considering who wrote it.
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Old 08-28-2009, 02:52 PM
 
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This has to be the funniest thing I've read all day, considering who wrote it.
Glad I could crack you up. If you'd like to look at all the statistics on the economy headed in a positive direction, the banks stablized and reregulated, Wall Street stabilized and re-regulated, and foreign policy, you'll stop laughing and come to slowly realized that, in fact...

Obama's a pretty darn good president.

But, it takes critical thought to realize that.
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Old 08-28-2009, 02:59 PM
 
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Funny how the Trons' only rebuttal is to post videos of verbal miscues of Bush, while being whipped like a choir-boy by a smooth-talking Chicago politician whose only goal is to bankrupt the nation and cower to international enemies. Glad to see you guys have your priorities in order.
Glad to see the hyperbole vat is full today.
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:03 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I'm always curious about why Obama critics are not willing or able to admit that for 8 years Dick Cheney performed unelthically and immorally but this was acceptable. Are you really not aware that President Obama inherited Cheney's mess? George Bush can not be blamed because he was merely the puppet and Cheney the Puppet Master.
Well, dswenert, you couldn't be more wrong.

Will any of you leftist ever start to think for yourself, instead of posting all the old, and tired propaganda from MoveOn, Think Progress and all the other extreme leftist groups?

Can you name even one thing that Dick Cheney did that was unethical or immoral?

Yet, we have Obama, in clear violation of the Constitution, firing the CEO of GM (Where is the Constitutional authority for that?), taking over GM (the law provides for bankruptcy, and that is the path that should have been followed in the first place).

In further violation of law, the US Government (that's Obama and his team), forced people who should have been the first in line, to take pennies on the dollar for their stake in GM, and the Unions and union bosses were given the largest percentage. This is illegal, and makes a mockery of our legal system and of Contract Law.

But you people were fine with this.

Obama's mess is his mess, and his alone. He did not inherit the mess we have now. He created it; by mishandling the recession that he may have inherited. This is because he has no clue what drives an economy.

Every expert out there is saying that he is doing, and has done all the wrong things.

Spending — trillions of dollars, that we don't have, making a bad situation hundreds of times worse. "He inherited Bush's (or Cheny's if you like) mess"? Hardly. All this has been done since Bush and Cheny left office.

Spending on programs that we don't need or want, that cannot stimulate the economy, because only business, and the expansion of business can grow the economy and create jobs.

Handing money to banks. For what? Nobody can tell us where it went, and the banks didn't lend it. They still aren't lending it.

Handing money to people to buy cars, and destroying perfectly good ones. Where does the money come from? Other people, who earned it; or, the government created it out of thin air. And those people must pay taxes on that income.

Everything this man has done so far has cost more job loss, put businesses out of business, and driven the economy ever closer to a deep depression.

This is Carter style, only Carter in four years didn't do near as much damage to the economy.

Our country is in the most serious trouble it has been in its entire history. All because of this one man, and his band of "Progressives", thugs, that are pulling his strings. He is the real puppet. The lackey of the "leftists".

Hope your enjoying it. My business is dead, an also the business of others I know who are self employed. This isn't fun, and it surely isn't funny. Thanks a pile for putting this idiot in power.
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:49 PM
 
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Bush leaves office in disgrace with maybe 20% poll numbers, and you call Obama's "failed experiment"? You need to go to work for the North Koreans, you do the best dis-information crap I've ever seen.
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:55 PM
 
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and to facillitate his War of Convinience.

There is much more, but those are more than enough for criminal Impeachment proceedings.
Your spelling is enough for criminal proceedings to begin.
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Old 08-28-2009, 03:55 PM
 
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War of Convinience resulting in more Iraqi deaths than those committed
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by Saddam, more US lives lost than 9/11, and billions wasted.

Please provide data to support your assertions.

Lied to the American people and Congress to shift the balance of power to the Executive Branch, and to facillitate his War of Convinience.

Detail each lie. So I guess Clinton signed the Authorization For a Regime Change in IraQ based on lies. talk about shift of power to the executive branch. Over 30 czars who were not subjected to congressional approval but oversee many Agencies that Congress is supposed to have oversight over.

And don't forget how many Democrats voted for giving President Bush authority to go into Iraq.

Eroded, or completely overstepped, several Constitutional Rights...


Please list the rights that were overstepped.

There is much more, but those are more than enough for criminal Impeachment proceedings.


Provide detail for the justification for impeachment.

Now is your chance to back up your assertions.
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Old 08-28-2009, 04:13 PM
 
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Will any of you leftist ever start to think for yourself, instead of posting all the old, and tired propaganda from MoveOn, Think Progress and all the other extreme leftist groups?

As opposed to World Net Daily, Newsmax, and Fox News?

Can you name even one thing that Dick Cheney did that was unethical or immoral?

Be quicker to name what he HADN'T done illegal.

Yet, we have Obama, in clear violation of the Constitution, firing the CEO of GM (Where is the Constitutional authority for that?), taking over GM (the law provides for bankruptcy, and that is the path that should have been followed in the first place).

Sorry, more neocon spin. Obama didn't fire anyone. The CEO took his severance package and ran rather than face oversight. being a ahrd-core right-winger, you might need to look that word up, "oversight".

In further violation of law, the US Government (that's Obama and his team), forced people who should have been the first in line, to take pennies on the dollar for their stake in GM, and the Unions and union bosses were given the largest percentage. This is illegal, and makes a mockery of our legal system and of Contract Law.

But you people were fine with this.


I supported bankruptcy, but you'll be hard pressed to prove the actions "illegal". Just 'cause Limbaugh says it is, doesn't make it so.

Obama's mess is his mess, and his alone. He did not inherit the mess we have now. He created it; by mishandling the recession that he may have inherited. This is because he has no clue what drives an economy.

Every expert out there is saying that he is doing, and has done all the wrong things.


Fox News hasn't had "every expert out there" on their programs.

Spending — trillions of dollars, that we don't have, making a bad situation hundreds of times worse. "He inherited Bush's (or Cheny's if you like) mess"? Hardly. All this has been done since Bush and Cheny left office.

Spending on programs that we don't need or want, that cannot stimulate the economy, because only business, and the expansion of business can grow the economy and create jobs.


"Deficit Spending" - a recognized economic theory used to break out of recessions. Look it up. Whether it works or not remains to be seen. BTW, unemployment ratings are slipping in several states, oops for neocon spin.

Handing money to banks. For what? Nobody can tell us where it went, and the banks didn't lend it. They still aren't lending it.

As opposed to StimBill One, crafted and then mishandled by Republicans that handed over money with no oversight whatsoever, money we cannot account for today?

Handing money to people to buy cars, and destroying perfectly good ones. Where does the money come from? Other people, who earned it; or, the government created it out of thin air. And those people must pay taxes on that income.

Heavens forbid Big Auto get some business or dealers actually have people walk through their doors. GASP! BTW, do you REALLY think the unemployed and/or those on welfare went to buy new cars? Every dealer I've every bought a car from does a credit check and won't sell to you unless you have a job.

Everything this man has done so far has cost more job loss, put businesses out of business, and driven the economy ever closer to a deep depression.

Strange how you don't mention the de-regulations and doomed-to-fail Trickle Down Economics of the past administration that caused the recession in the first place. Blind party loyalty, so sad.

This is Carter style, only Carter in four years didn't do near as much damage to the economy.

If you were old enough to have been employed during Carter's administration, you would know that statement for exactly what it is, empty rhetoric. However, anyone living through Reagan's terms would see the same exact failed economic and deregulation policies fowarded for the past 8 years.

Our country is in the most serious trouble it has been in its entire history. All because of this one man, and his band of "Progressives", thugs, that are pulling his strings. He is the real puppet. The lackey of the "leftists".

Oh look, more empty rhetoric. This is a recession, not the Depression. BTW, only the hard-core right-wingers (and neocon media) expected any Dem POTUS who came after Bush43 to fart miracles out his bottom. Everyone else knows it takes time for an economy to recover.

Hope your enjoying it. My business is dead, an also the business of others I know who are self employed. This isn't fun, and it surely isn't funny. Thanks a pile for putting that idiot in power.

Fixed the above quote for you, no charge.

BTW, before you exhibit to C-D.com your black-0and-white political world-view, I am a Centrist and a registered Independant, not a lib or a Dem.
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Old 08-28-2009, 04:37 PM
 
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Provide detail for the justification for impeachment.

Now is your chance to back up your assertions.
Good heavens, are you THAT blindly partisan?

We passed the mark of people killed on 9/11 in '06...
CNN.com - U.S. deaths in Iraq,*war on terror surpass 9/11 toll - Sep 3, 2006

Lies? Plenty. WMD, "imminent threat", ties to terrorists, etc. Each time one was shot down, another would arise.

And nice strawman with the "Authorization for Regime Change" which is actually called the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998. Try reading it at some point, you will note it doesn't call for invasion, nor does it erode the Balance of Power at all.

And I'll name ONE quite obvious program that overstepped the Constitution, Domestic Spying. The POTUS swears an Oath to uphold the Constitution when they are sworn in. That program defied and trampled on the 4th Amendment.

Lieing and unContitutional policies, so is malfeasance. You remember lieing, dont you, what the GOP tried to Impeach Clinton for when they tried to overstep the democratic principles that put Clinton in the WH in the first place?
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Old 08-28-2009, 05:43 PM
 
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Your spelling is enough for criminal proceedings to begin.
I don't use a spell checker and many times I don't even bother proof reading.

1. Because it's a waste of time. If a typo results in confusion, the logical, civilized thing to do is to ask for clarification.

2. I gives people with NOTHING to being to the debate something to complain about.

Still, I don't do too bad for an arthritic person who doesn't have to rely on a spell checker.
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