It makes me glad to see the right criticizing "HOPE" (McCain, Congress)
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Throughout last year's Presidential campaign and continuing up through the present the righties have constantly denounced, belittled and laughed at the idea of "hope" as exemplified by Obama's campaign. Unlike many other people I'm glad to see this criticism because it shows the bankruptcy of their programs, ideas and ideology.
But first let's go back to where the idea of "hope" as a campaign center piece started. From the Old Testament-Hebrews we are told that faith is "the assurance of things hoped for, a conviction of things not seen." This is quite different from Bush's "faith based" ideas on disaster relief-Katriana, military strategy-"bring em on" or reaction to tough times-"when the going gets tough, the tough go shopping". This was a belief in oneself and the goodness of one's nation, to see beyond color, race or background, to look for a brighter future.
As Obama elequently stated it in (probably more than) one of his speeches; "it was hope that caused the immigrants to forgo family and home in Europe and cross the oceans, it was hope that caused the pioneer families to load up wagons and cross the desert, it was hope that motivated a President to inspire us to go to the moon.
We're now six months into the Obama administration, less than that into the signing of the stimulus bill, and the right is moaning that "the stimulus is a failure". But let's go back and look at some important events from our past and see how they were going six months in:
The American Revolution; The battle at Lexington took place in April '75, it would be 15 months before the Declaration of Indpendence was signed. It would be December of '76 before Washington defeated the British at Trenton and Princeton.
The Civil War; Hostilities began in April '61 and it was pretty much all downhill for the Union until July '63 when, within a couple of days of each other, Grant took Vickburg, opening the Mississippi River, and Lee was defeated and turned back at Gettysburg.
WW II; The US entered WW II when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor in December '41, up until then and continuing for the forseeable future the Japanese military (particularly the Navy) steadily advanced across the Pacific. The Battle of Midway took place in May of 42, six months after Pearl Harbor, the US Navy staged a stunning defeat of the Imperial Navy. From then through August '45 the Japanese Navy did nothing but retreat.
Watergate; The break in occured in June '72, it would be a year before the existence of the WH taping system was revealed, another 4 months before the "Saturday Night Massacre", another nine months before the "smoking gun" tape was revealed.
So, would I like things to have turned on a dime after the inauguration? Yes. Did I expect them to? No. Do I have "hope" for the future?...
Absolutely. Every time I read another of the constant "birther", "hope-n-change" or similar threads on here I am renewed in my faith and hope. I know that the right had no ideas for the last 15 years since the (laughably titled and executed) "contract for America" and see that they've learned nothing.
So to my fellow posters (I won't call you friends) on the right, to paraphrase your #2 god GW Bush; if that's all you've got BRING IT ON.
Given all that obama has backtracked on - taxes, spending (what was that he used to say about reining in out of control spending), Wiretapping, detainees, gitmo, the list goes on - proves that the slogan was just a catchy phrase to lure voters to pull the lever for him. Now they are waking up to his true intentions.
And your purpose in resurrecting all this history is what, besides fomenting arguments and bad feelings? Give it a rest. Every election cycle is about hope. The current administration doesn't have a patent on it. Nor have any in the past.
Throughout last year's Presidential campaign and continuing up through the present the righties have constantly denounced, belittled and laughed at the idea of "hope" as exemplified by Obama's campaign. Unlike many other people I'm glad to see this criticism because it shows the bankruptcy of their programs, ideas and ideology.
But first let's go back to where the idea of "hope" as a campaign center piece started. From the Old Testament-Hebrews we are told that faith is "the assurance of things hoped for, a conviction of things not seen." This is quite different from Bush's "faith based" ideas on disaster relief-Katriana, military strategy-"bring em on" or reaction to tough times-"when the going gets tough, the tough go shopping". This was a belief in oneself and the goodness of one's nation, to see beyond color, race or background, to look for a brighter future.
As Obama elequently stated it in (probably more than) one of his speeches; "it was hope that caused the immigrants to forgo family and home in Europe and cross the oceans, it was hope that caused the pioneer families to load up wagons and cross the desert, it was hope that motivated a President to inspire us to go to the moon.
We're now six months into the Obama administration, less than that into the signing of the stimulus bill, and the right is moaning that "the stimulus is a failure". But let's go back and look at some important events from our past and see how they were going six months in:
The American Revolution; The battle at Lexington took place in April '75, it would be 15 months before the Declaration of Indpendence was signed. It would be December of '76 before Washington defeated the British at Trenton and Princeton.
The Civil War; Hostilities began in April '61 and it was pretty much all downhill for the Union until July '63 when, within a couple of days of each other, Grant took Vickburg, opening the Mississippi River, and Lee was defeated and turned back at Gettysburg.
WW II; The US entered WW II when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor in December '41, up until then and continuing for the forseeable future the Japanese military (particularly the Navy) steadily advanced across the Pacific. The Battle of Midway took place in May of 42, six months after Pearl Harbor, the US Navy staged a stunning defeat of the Imperial Navy. From then through August '45 the Japanese Navy did nothing but retreat.
Watergate; The break in occured in June '72, it would be a year before the existence of the WH taping system was revealed, another 4 months before the "Saturday Night Massacre", another nine months before the "smoking gun" tape was revealed.
So, would I like things to have turned on a dime after the inauguration? Yes. Did I expect them to? No. Do I have "hope" for the future?...
Absolutely. Every time I read another of the constant "birther", "hope-n-change" or similar threads on here I am renewed in my faith and hope. I know that the right had no ideas for the last 15 years since the (laughably titled and executed) "contract for America" and see that they've learned nothing.
So to my fellow posters (I won't call you friends) on the right, to paraphrase your #2 god GW Bush; if that's all you've got BRING IT ON.
golfgod
VERY well said! If you wrote those words, yourself I am Very Impressed. No matter, if not, I am glad you posted it, they are the thoughts and words of a true Patriot.
Be Well,
Casper
Good post. I just went to the recovery.gov website and as of July 10th $183 billion has been made available and $64 billion has been paid out. Here's the link if anyone wants to check it out. Reporting the Progress* | Recovery.gov
It's obviously too early to start judging the effectivness of the stimulus because not even 1/10th of the money has been paid out. With that said, Obama has broken some promises and has not done some things that I feel are key to turning the economy around. But overall we are much better with him that we would have been with McCain in my opinion.
Good post. I just went to the recovery.gov website and as of July 10th $183 billion has been made available and $64 billion has been paid out. Here's the link if anyone wants to check it out. Reporting the Progress* | Recovery.gov
It's obviously too early to start judging the effectivness of the stimulus because not even 1/10th of the money has been paid out. With that said, Obama has broken some promises and has not done some things that I feel are key to turning the economy around. But overall we are much better with him that we would have been with McCain in my opinion.
Fair enough. I'll give him more time.
So many jobs were created with the 64 billion dollars? I don't see it on the site.
It's obviously too early to start judging the effectivness of the stimulus because not even 1/10th of the money has been paid out.
You do now admit that the stimulus really wasn't stimulative in the traditional sense - meaning, get the money out immediately to have the most impact. It was sold by obama as a stimulus when in fact it was just another dem/lib bill filled to the brim with pork-barrel spending.
VERY well said! If you wrote those words, yourself I am Very Impressed. No matter, if not, I am glad you posted it, they are the thoughts and words of a true Patriot.
Be Well,
Casper
LOL- A true patriot? because the poster blindly follows a leader that is having a mental meltdown?
Obama feels the heat, changes the play - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090719/pl_politico/25114 - broken link)
Barack Obama is whining and bitching because right now he is not getting his way. He is frustrated that he has a Democratic congress that is intelligently not bowing down to him and going along with every one of his orders. Thank you Democratic Congress for standing up to the President who believes he is entitled to get whatever he wants.
Throughout last year's Presidential campaign and continuing up through the present the righties have constantly denounced, belittled and laughed at the idea of "hope" as exemplified by Obama's campaign. Unlike many other people I'm glad to see this criticism because it shows the bankruptcy of their programs, ideas and ideology.
But first let's go back to where the idea of "hope" as a campaign center piece started. From the Old Testament-Hebrews we are told that faith is "the assurance of things hoped for, a conviction of things not seen." This is quite different from Bush's "faith based" ideas on disaster relief-Katriana, military strategy-"bring em on" or reaction to tough times-"when the going gets tough, the tough go shopping". This was a belief in oneself and the goodness of one's nation, to see beyond color, race or background, to look for a brighter future.
As Obama elequently stated it in (probably more than) one of his speeches; "it was hope that caused the immigrants to forgo family and home in Europe and cross the oceans, it was hope that caused the pioneer families to load up wagons and cross the desert, it was hope that motivated a President to inspire us to go to the moon.
We're now six months into the Obama administration, less than that into the signing of the stimulus bill, and the right is moaning that "the stimulus is a failure". But let's go back and look at some important events from our past and see how they were going six months in:
The American Revolution; The battle at Lexington took place in April '75, it would be 15 months before the Declaration of Indpendence was signed. It would be December of '76 before Washington defeated the British at Trenton and Princeton.
The Civil War; Hostilities began in April '61 and it was pretty much all downhill for the Union until July '63 when, within a couple of days of each other, Grant took Vickburg, opening the Mississippi River, and Lee was defeated and turned back at Gettysburg.
WW II; The US entered WW II when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor in December '41, up until then and continuing for the forseeable future the Japanese military (particularly the Navy) steadily advanced across the Pacific. The Battle of Midway took place in May of 42, six months after Pearl Harbor, the US Navy staged a stunning defeat of the Imperial Navy. From then through August '45 the Japanese Navy did nothing but retreat.
Watergate; The break in occured in June '72, it would be a year before the existence of the WH taping system was revealed, another 4 months before the "Saturday Night Massacre", another nine months before the "smoking gun" tape was revealed.
So, would I like things to have turned on a dime after the inauguration? Yes. Did I expect them to? No. Do I have "hope" for the future?...
Absolutely. Every time I read another of the constant "birther", "hope-n-change" or similar threads on here I am renewed in my faith and hope. I know that the right had no ideas for the last 15 years since the (laughably titled and executed) "contract for America" and see that they've learned nothing.
So to my fellow posters (I won't call you friends) on the right, to paraphrase your #2 god GW Bush; if that's all you've got BRING IT ON.
golfgod
Every positive person has HOPE. Conservatives have HOPE that Obama will not bankrupt the country and turn it into a socialist state. HOPE and FAITH are usually related- this is what got our country through those difficult times you noted. Ironically, most liberals oppose FAITH. HOPE without FAITH and committment is just whining. That is what was so laughable about Obama's "HOPE" campaign. Instead of bitching and whining, why not try "HARD WORK", "EDUCATION", and "SACRIFICE"? "HOPE" plays alot better, as it allows people who have not worked hard or educated themselves to ***** without putting forward any effort. Obama's "HOPE" is actually the DESPAIR of capitulation of one's free will to the government in exchange for "protection". Who was it who said that, "Those who sacrifice their liberty in exchange for comfort deserve neither"?
You do now admit that the stimulus really wasn't stimulative in the traditional sense - meaning, get the money out immediately to have the most impact. It was sold by obama as a stimulus when in fact it was just another dem/lib bill filled to the brim with pork-barrel spending.
I never thought that the stimulus was perfect, but I think that it will definitely do more good than harm. One of the things that I liked about it is that alot of the projects were things that needed to be funded anyway: light rail, wetherizing homes, renovating buldings, renewable energy, food stamps, infrastructure repair ect.. Obviously I can understand if you think this is all pork because you probably don't agree with any of it; but I happen to think it's all necessary and should have gotten more funding. With all that said, I would have liked to see the money get spend a little quicker.
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