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Old 04-17-2010, 10:08 AM
 
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Barack Obama, Hope and Change 2008: "Let me spell out exactly what that change would mean if I am President. I..."

Promise #1
• Will start giving tax breaks to companies that create good jobs right here in America.

Correction: I will start giving tax breaks in a second stimulus since my first stimulus didn’t do crap for small businesses. I have now learned that it is they who create jobs. Someone should have told me that.

Promise #2
• Will cut taxes - cut taxes - for 95% of all working families. "Because in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle-class.”

Correction: President Obama's budget proposes $989 billion in new taxes over the course of the next 10 years, starting fiscal year 2011, most of which are tax increases on individuals.

1) On people making more than $250,000: Total: $636 billion/10 years
2) Businesses: Total: $353 billion/10 years

Are we to expect that none of these tax increases will be passed on to the little man?

Promise #3
• Will set a clear goal as President: in ten years, we will finally end our dependence on oil from the Middle East.

Correction: And The Whole World Laughs Out Loud

Promise #4
• Will help our auto companies re-tool, so that the fuel-efficient cars of the future are built right here in America... will make it easier for the American people to afford these new cars.

Correction: Cash For Clunkers added money to the national debt while doing virtually nothing for Detroit, jobs, or the environment.

Promise #5
• Will go through the federal budget, line by line, eliminating programs that no longer work and making the ones we do need work better and cost less - ("because we cannot meet twenty-first century challenges with a twentieth century bureaucracy.")

Correction: Thousands of earmarks later………………..Obama has yet to use the Line Item Veto

Promise #6
• Will only send our troops into harm's way with a clear mission and a sacred commitment to give them the equipment they need in battle and the care and benefits they deserve when they come home.

Correction: My definition of “harm’s way” and “clear mission” is only applicable for an 18 month timeline. This does not mean that I intend to secure victory. I forgot to tell you that during the campaign.

Promise #7
• Will also renew the tough, direct diplomacy that can prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons and curb Russian aggression.

Correction: I love the use of the word “can.” It gives me a way out when critics call me out for being hopelessly naïve. It's my Semantical Back Door.

And the biggest Harbinger of all:

Promise #8
• If you have health care, my plan will lower your premiums. If you don't, you'll be able to get the same kind of coverage that members of Congress give themselves.

Correction: Anyone who’s been paying attention knows how farcical this statement is.

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Shall I continue?

The words "Hope" and "Change" are no longer relevant to this Administration, and any future campaign that aspires to use these two campaign themes do so at their own peril. American's were bought and sold on a concept that is nothing but more of the same in Washington. The bad taste left behind will not go away anytime soon.
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Old 04-17-2010, 10:11 AM
 
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Spot on! Funny, and unfortunately, too true.
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Old 04-17-2010, 10:14 AM
 
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Maybe we need to create a new word for Obama-speak, like we did for Clinton.

Clintonese - "oral sex" is not "having sex"; therefore a man who receives oral sex from a woman "did not have sex with that woman".
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Old 04-17-2010, 10:17 AM
 
Location: east of my daughter-north of my son
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I gave up on the words hope and change a long time ago. Too many lying politicians bandy them about come election time.

A shame too. Those used to be good words.
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Old 04-17-2010, 10:32 AM
 
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Maybe we need to create a new word for Obama-speak, like we did for Clinton.

Clintonese - "oral sex" is not "having sex"; therefore a man who receives oral sex from a woman "did not have sex with that woman".
We already have one ... it's "Liar".
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Old 04-17-2010, 10:35 AM
 
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Paying any attention to campaign slogans will drive you crazy.
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Old 04-17-2010, 10:43 AM
 
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Correction: Thousands of earmarks later………………..Obama has yet to use the Line Item Veto
Correction, line item veto no longer exists. Was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court during the Clinton term..
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Old 04-17-2010, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC View Post
Barack Obama, Hope and Change 2008: "Let me spell out exactly what that change would mean if I am President. I..."

Promise #1
• Will start giving tax breaks to companies that create good jobs right here in America.

Correction: I will start giving tax breaks in a second stimulus since my first stimulus didn’t do crap for small businesses. I have now learned that it is they who create jobs. Someone should have told me that.

Promise #2
• Will cut taxes - cut taxes - for 95% of all working families. "Because in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle-class.”

Correction: President Obama's budget proposes $989 billion in new taxes over the course of the next 10 years, starting fiscal year 2011, most of which are tax increases on individuals.

1) On people making more than $250,000: Total: $636 billion/10 years
2) Businesses: Total: $353 billion/10 years

Are we to expect that none of these tax increases will be passed on to the little man?

Promise #3
• Will set a clear goal as President: in ten years, we will finally end our dependence on oil from the Middle East.

Correction: And The Whole World Laughs Out Loud

Promise #4
• Will help our auto companies re-tool, so that the fuel-efficient cars of the future are built right here in America... will make it easier for the American people to afford these new cars.

Correction: Cash For Clunkers added money to the national debt while doing virtually nothing for Detroit, jobs, or the environment.

Promise #5
• Will go through the federal budget, line by line, eliminating programs that no longer work and making the ones we do need work better and cost less - ("because we cannot meet twenty-first century challenges with a twentieth century bureaucracy.")

Correction: Thousands of earmarks later………………..Obama has yet to use the Line Item Veto

Promise #6
• Will only send our troops into harm's way with a clear mission and a sacred commitment to give them the equipment they need in battle and the care and benefits they deserve when they come home.

Correction: My definition of “harm’s way” and “clear mission” is only applicable for an 18 month timeline. This does not mean that I intend to secure victory. I forgot to tell you that during the campaign.

Promise #7
• Will also renew the tough, direct diplomacy that can prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons and curb Russian aggression.

Correction: I love the use of the word “can.” It gives me a way out when critics call me out for being hopelessly naïve. It's my Semantical Back Door.

And the biggest Harbinger of all:

Promise #8
• If you have health care, my plan will lower your premiums. If you don't, you'll be able to get the same kind of coverage that members of Congress give themselves.

Correction: Anyone who’s been paying attention knows how farcical this statement is.

**********************************

Shall I continue?

The words "Hope" and "Change" are no longer relevant to this Administration, and any future campaign that aspires to use these two campaign themes do so at their own peril. American's were bought and sold on a concept that is nothing but more of the same in Washington. The bad taste left behind will not go away anytime soon.

I'm fairly shocked to find out that politicians promise one thing and deliver another. And that sometimes, the things they promise neve rcoem to pass. No new taxes... rings a bell.

Kind of like the shock I felt when I was watching the Palin-Kouric inter...youc an't cant even call that an interview. Man, that was like I dunno, "Katie Kouric interviews The Three Stooges" or something.
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Old 04-17-2010, 11:32 AM
 
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I'm fairly shocked to find out that politicians promise one thing and deliver another. And that sometimes, the things they promise neve rcoem to pass. No new taxes... rings a bell.

Kind of like the shock I felt when I was watching the Palin-Kouric inter...youc an't cant even call that an interview. Man, that was like I dunno, "Katie Kouric interviews The Three Stooges" or something.
That's ok we'll pay attention to what Obama is doing vs.saying and you can continue live in the past.
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Old 04-17-2010, 11:41 AM
 
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"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!"

LOL.

OMG a politician used a slogan!

*yawn*
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