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Old 06-05-2009, 07:35 AM
 
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http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/c...df/140410p.pdf

Is this the voluntary force that Obama is talking about or is it to help fight for NATO.

(2) DoD civilian employees in E-E or NCE positions may be directed to accept
deployment requirements of the position. However, whenever possible, the DoD Civilian
Expeditionary Workforce will be asked to serve expeditionary requirements voluntarily.
Management retains the authority to direct and assign civilian employees, either voluntarily
involuntarily, or on an unexpected basis to accomplish the DoD mission.
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:38 AM
 
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Defense Department Establishes Civilian Expeditionary Workforce

By Gerry J. Gilmore
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, Jan. 27, 2009 – The Defense Department is forming a civilian expeditionary workforce that will be trained and equipped to deploy overseas in support of military missions worldwide, according to department officials.
The intent of the program “is to maximize the use of the civilian workforce to allow military personnel to be fully utilized for operational requirements,” according to a Defense Department statement.

Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England signed Defense Department Directive 1404.10, which outlines and provides guidance about the program, on Jan. 23.

Certain duty positions may be designated by the various Defense Department components to participate in the program. If a position is designated, the employee will be asked to sign an agreement that they will deploy if called upon to do so. If the employee does not wish to deploy, every effort will be made to reassign the employee to a nondeploying position.

The directive emphasizes, however, that volunteers be sought first for any expeditionary requirements, before requiring anyone to serve involuntarily or on short notice. Overseas duty tours shall not exceed two years.

Employees in deployable-designated positions will be trained, equipped and prepared to serve overseas in support of humanitarian, reconstruction and, if absolutely necessary, combat-support missions.

The program also is open to former and retired civilian employees who agree to return to federal service on a time-limited status to serve overseas or to fill in for people deployed overseas.

Program participants are eligible for military medical support while serving in their overseas duty station.

All participants will undergo pre- and post-deployment medical testing, including physical and psychological exams.

Defense civilians reassigned from their normal duty to serve overseas will be granted the right to return to the positions they held prior to their deployment or to a position of similar grade, level and responsibility within the same organization, regardless of the deployment length .

Families of deployed Defense Department civilian employees shall be supported and provided with information on benefits and entitlements and issues likely to be faced by the employee during and upon return from a deployment.

Defense civilian employees who participate in the expeditionary program shall be treated with high regard as an indication of the department’s respect for those who serve expeditionary requirements.

Expeditionary program participants’ service and experience shall be valued, respected and recognized as career-enhancing.

Participants who meet program requirements would be eligible to receive the Secretary of Defense Medal for the Global War on Terrorism.
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:39 AM
 
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"Voluntary draft" is an oxymoron.

The directive is from the Bush era.

To answer your question: no, it's not. Just read it () The idea is to take pressure off the troops by allowing some DoD employees who volunteer to go over and do civilian style work for the armed forces.
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:41 AM
 
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It appears that if you are an employee of the DoD with certain rank, you could be selected to train for a specific subset of the DoD, where you will be asked to accept that you may be deployed as a part of your position, much like joining the army

The easy way to avoid this would be to not take the job or leave when informed of these requirements.

It's pretty clear if you read the entire document.
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:44 AM
 
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It's pretty clear if you read the entire document.
Well, see....
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:47 AM
 
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In fact, it mentions about 4 separate times that the employee must be informed of, and sign off on paperwork stating they are a member of a special subset, and as part of their job they could be deployed.

It would be kind of like saying soldiers are part of a "voluntary draft".
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:48 AM
 
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is an oxymoron.
I would say something but it would be against the TOS.
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:48 AM
 
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In fact, it mentions about 4 separate times that the employee must be informed of, and sign off on paperwork stating they are a member of a special subset, and as part of their job they could be deployed.

It would be kind of like saying soldiers are part of a "voluntary draft".
No, a draft cant be voluntary and still be a draft. A voluntary agreement to deploy...?
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:57 AM
 
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The NBA draft? Just saying. Although I did like Newtoli's interpretation because it was more fitting of where the OP was going.
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