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Old 05-20-2009, 04:01 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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this makes no sense.

the US spent millions and millions of dollars training this guy who has fought the taliban, fought in several wars and who has been rewarded with multiple medals, but now they want to get rid of him for being a homosexual?

http://www.q ue e rty.com/shock-obama-lets-military-ax-18-year-fighter-pilot-vet-victor-fehrenbach-20090520/

this is similar to the story about dan choi. it makes no sense. these are language specialist and valuable assets to the military.

obama seems to be disappointing those who backed his promises of change...
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Old 05-20-2009, 05:40 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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this makes no sense.

the US spent millions and millions of dollars training this guy who has fought the taliban, fought in several wars and who has been rewarded with multiple medals, but now they want to get rid of him for being a homosexual?

http://www.q ue e rty.com/shock-obama-lets-military-ax-18-year-fighter-pilot-vet-victor-fehrenbach-20090520/

this is similar to the story about dan choi. it makes no sense. these are language specialist and valuable assets to the military.

obama seems to be disappointing those who backed his promises of change...

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Old 05-20-2009, 05:43 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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http://www.*****ty.com/shock-obama-l...bach-20090520/

the stars represent the Q U E E R
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Old 05-20-2009, 07:53 PM
 
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I saw this story on MSNBC. DADT may be problematic to some, but it is the law/policy. When you break the law, you pay the consequences. He obviously divulged his gay lifestyle to someone. Until the policy is changed, what can anyone say? It is what it is.

What bothered me is that Rachel Maddow NEVER asked him why he broke the law/policy. Seems like a logical question to me. Everything else is moot.
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Old 05-20-2009, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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I saw this story on MSNBC. DADT may be problematic to some, but it is the law/policy. When you break the law, you pay the consequences. He obviously divulged his gay lifestyle to someone. Until the policy is changed, what can anyone say? It is what it is.
You can say it's a ridiculous policy and should be changed, that's what you can say.
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Old 05-20-2009, 07:59 PM
 
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You can say it's a ridiculous policy and should be changed, that's what you can say.
Perhaps. For the sake of argument, can you elaborate why you think that it would be beneficial for anyone to know your sexual orientation? Especially for troops that share close quarters? Why does that need to be divulged? What good could come from that information? Just curious what your opinion is since you think it is a ridiculous policy.
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Old 05-20-2009, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Fly-over country.
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It's policy. It does not matter how much was "spent" or what great things the guy did. If the policy changes, it won't happen. Before then, it's just one of many rules enforced.
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Old 05-20-2009, 08:18 PM
 
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Ok, so maybe I got off on the wrong foot with Mr. Fury, but this is the second time that I can't argue with his point.

Don't Ask, Don't Tell seems to be a pretty cut and dry proposition and the military is pretty cut and dry on dealing with cut and dry issues. So, while I find the policy stupid and counterproductive, it is the policy. Should it be changed, most definitely and I have no doubt that by outing themselves this is precisely what these officers intended on doing.
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Old 05-20-2009, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Perhaps. For the sake of argument, can you elaborate why you think that it would be beneficial for anyone to know your sexual orientation? Especially for troops that share close quarters? Why does that need to be divulged? What good could come from that information? Just curious what your opinion is since you think it is a ridiculous policy.
Are you gay?
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Old 05-20-2009, 10:26 PM
 
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Are you gay?
How is my sexual orientation relevant? It's not. But for the record, no I am not gay.

Your point?
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