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Car engines and transmissions are already about as efficient as they can get, for running on gasoline. So, the only way you can increase the gas mileage of cars, is by using hybrid technology (doubling the price of cars), different fuels (which Barry isn't doing here)... or making the cars smaller and lighter.
And it's been well established for years, that smaller and lighter cars are less crashworthy than larger, heavier cars. Crash two small cars together, and you have significantly more chance of death and injury, than if you crash two large cars together. And of course, if you crash a big car and a small one together, guess which car's occupants get smashed up more?
By mandating higher gas mileage by legislative fiat, Obama is directly ordering the deaths of hundreds or thousands more Americans. And he is doing simply for the purpose of saving gas. He has made the decision that the oil saved, is worth the additional deaths and injuries his decision will cause. He is, quite literally, trading blood for oil.
When can we expect the "NO BLOOD FOR OIL" hysterics who kept attending protests of the Gulf Wars, to show up outside the White House with their big signs, mindless chants, and stained bongs in response to this latest decision?
Obama to Detail New Car Fuel Standards Tuesday, Reports Say
by WSJ Staff
May 18, 2009, 1:24 PM ET
New U.S. fuel-efficiency standards for automobiles are to be announced Tuesday by President Barack Obama, various news Web sites reported Monday. In part, the Obama administration will direct the Environmental Protection Agency and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to jointly set limits on tailpipe emissions, the Detroit News reported. Politico.com also reported news of the pending announcement, saying the new Corporate Average Fuel Economy, or CAFE, standards will be promoted by the White House as historic because they’re meant to avoid a patchwork of standards in different states.
Car engines and transmissions are already about as efficient as they can get, for running on gasoline. So, the only way you can increase the gas mileage of cars, is by using hybrid technology (doubling the price of cars), different fuels (which Barry isn't doing here)... or making the cars smaller and lighter.
Hardly,
We Build a 70 mpg Car - Top Gear US (http://www.topgear.com/us/features/more/we-build-a-70-mpg-car/ - broken link)
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And it's been well established for years, that smaller and lighter cars are less crashworthy than larger, heavier cars. Crash two small cars together, and you have significantly more chance of death and injury, than if you crash two large cars together. And of course, if you crash a big car and a small one together, guess which car's occupants get smashed up more?
So your answer is for everyone to drive an SUV? Strange argument.
And it's been well established for years, that smaller and lighter cars are less crashworthy than larger, heavier cars. Crash two small cars together, and you have significantly more chance of death and injury, than if you crash two large cars together. And of course, if you crash a big car and a small one together, guess which car's occupants get smashed up more?
Using the OP's logic we should all drive Semi Trucks as there is not a single SUV or Sedan that would not get crushed by one if an accident occurred.
Car engines and transmissions are already about as efficient as they can get, for running on gasoline. So, the only way you can increase the gas mileage of cars, is by using hybrid technology (doubling the price of cars), different fuels (which Barry isn't doing here)... or making the cars smaller and lighter.
And it's been well established for years, that smaller and lighter cars are less crashworthy than larger, heavier cars. Crash two small cars together, and you have significantly more chance of death and injury, than if you crash two large cars together. And of course, if you crash a big car and a small one together, guess which car's occupants get smashed up more?
By mandating higher gas mileage by legislative fiat, Obama is directly ordering the deaths of hundreds or thousands more Americans. And he is doing simply for the purpose of saving gas. He has made the decision that the oil saved, is worth the additional deaths and injuries his decision will cause. He is, quite literally, trading blood for oil.
When can we expect the "NO BLOOD FOR OIL" hysterics who kept attending protests of the Gulf Wars, to show up outside the White House with their big signs, mindless chants, and stained bongs in response to this latest decision?
Obama to Detail New Car Fuel Standards Tuesday, Reports Say
by WSJ Staff
May 18, 2009, 1:24 PM ET
New U.S. fuel-efficiency standards for automobiles are to be announced Tuesday by President Barack Obama, various news Web sites reported Monday. In part, the Obama administration will direct the Environmental Protection Agency and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to jointly set limits on tailpipe emissions, the Detroit News reported. Politico.com also reported news of the pending announcement, saying the new Corporate Average Fuel Economy, or CAFE, standards will be promoted by the White House as historic because they’re meant to avoid a patchwork of standards in different states.
You should really do some research and a little thinking before starting posts... China of all places has higher fuel standards than the US and they are doing it with conventional gasoline vehicles. If you don't set the goal, there will be no incentive to improve. As for safety, your point is that everyone should drive a Hummer? Odd reasoning... and how does that fit in with the goal of not being dependent on foreign oil... or does that not matter since the oil fairy is an American?
Right now they're making Lincoln Navigators and Cadillac Escalades in hybrid form so your crash tests are not valid.As for prices,most hybrids cost about 3-5k more then the regular version of a car NOT DOUBLE and prices are coming down, and now there are more incentives to buy the hybrids as well.
You can ridicule the OP all you like, but the fact is that Americans don't feel safe driving tiny tin cans while sharing the road with 18-wheelers. (You may feel just fine with small cars off the freeway, but the fact is not many people commute this way.)
Much more of this country's freight will have to be put on the rails before they are willing to scale down their vehicle's weight.
I think King Bin Obama is arrogant to think we as tax payers and consumers have to listen to his tripe. I think his ideas of equality are every one being poor. Can any one say one term president?
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Car engines and transmissions are already about as efficient as they can get, for running on gasoline. So, the only way you can increase the gas mileage of cars, is by using hybrid technology (doubling the price of cars), different fuels (which Barry isn't doing here)... or making the cars smaller and lighter.
And it's been well established for years, that smaller and lighter cars are less crashworthy than larger, heavier cars. Crash two small cars together, and you have significantly more chance of death and injury, than if you crash two large cars together. And of course, if you crash a big car and a small one together, guess which car's occupants get smashed up more?
By mandating higher gas mileage by legislative fiat, Obama is directly ordering the deaths of hundreds or thousands more Americans. And he is doing simply for the purpose of saving gas. He has made the decision that the oil saved, is worth the additional deaths and injuries his decision will cause. He is, quite literally, trading blood for oil.
When can we expect the "NO BLOOD FOR OIL" hysterics who kept attending protests of the Gulf Wars, to show up outside the White House with their big signs, mindless chants, and stained bongs in response to this latest decision?
Obama to Detail New Car Fuel Standards Tuesday, Reports Say
by WSJ Staff
May 18, 2009, 1:24 PM ET
New U.S. fuel-efficiency standards for automobiles are to be announced Tuesday by President Barack Obama, various news Web sites reported Monday. In part, the Obama administration will direct the Environmental Protection Agency and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to jointly set limits on tailpipe emissions, the Detroit News reported. Politico.com also reported news of the pending announcement, saying the new Corporate Average Fuel Economy, or CAFE, standards will be promoted by the White House as historic because they’re meant to avoid a patchwork of standards in different states.
Good for Obama. They should have been raised and applied to trucks and SUVs YEARS ago. And don't give me the "crashworthy" argument. Germans drive small cars and speed as do the French and English and I don't think they get killed anymore than we do.
You can ridicule the OP all you like, but the fact is that Americans don't feel safe driving tiny tin cans while sharing the road with 18-wheelers. (You may feel just fine with small cars off the freeway, but the fact is not many people commute this way.)
Much more of this country's freight will have to be put on the rails before they are willing to scale down their vehicle's weight.
Our roads are crap due to the weight that is allowed here on the roads in large trucks. The scales are almost always closed, and are easily by-passed.
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