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Old 04-10-2009, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Originally Posted by JetJockey View Post
Apparently, it's okay to take up 2 or 3 spaces in the parking lot because you just HAD to have the 6" lift put on your expedition.
I'm confused... How does a suspension lift make a car wider? I have a 4" lift on my Jeep and after it was installed, it was the same width as before...

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Why do so many people love SUV's? Is it simply because they can haul a lot more stuff in them than in a typical 4 door sedan?
My Jeep can't carry much of anything - especially if I have passengers in the back seat. I didn't buy it for hauling; I have a minivan for that. I bought my Jeep almost exclusively for off-roading, which is pretty difficult to do in a Geo Metro.



And yes, I do love my SUV. I only wish I had more opportunity to drive it. We take my girl's VW "new" Beetle almost everywhere, as it gets better mileage than the van (worst of the three) and the Jeep (which only gets a few MPG less than her "bug").
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Old 04-10-2009, 10:49 PM
 
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Yeah, I know that's what Honda says, but I'm using the numbers published by Consumer Reports. They use the same way of measuring these things consistently from one vehicle to another. I trust their numbers more than what the car manufacturers publish on their websites.
Ah, gotcha. Makes sense.
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Old 04-10-2009, 10:49 PM
 
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I'm confused... How does a suspension lift make a car wider? I have a 4" lift on my Jeep and after it was installed, it was the same width as before...
Incredible how that works, isn't it?!
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Old 04-10-2009, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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I just checked the Honda website (trust, but verify), and the stated turning radius for the Civic sedans are 34.8' and 35.4' for the current model year. Maybe they reduced it from previous models?

My car has a turning radius of 16.4'. Parking is a breeze, nearly anywhere.
My Jeep has a turning radius of 16.8'. It turns on a dime! It's great for squeezing between rocks on the trail or cars in a parking lot.
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Old 04-10-2009, 10:59 PM
 
Location: The Planet Mars
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"The SUV is dead - long live the SUV"

from msnbc.com:

NEW YORK, N.Y. - The smart set here in New York has long declared the SUV dead.

That gas-guzzling, pollutant-spewing darling of suburban and rural America is a passé relic of a bygone era, according to the book editors, fashion photographers, literary critics, Broadway choreographers and other practitioners of the bedrock industries that built this country.

They’d better stay away from the New York auto show this week because there they will see car manufacturers showing off their latest off-road contenders, and the majority of the new models unveiled at the show’s press preview earlier this week were SUVs or crossovers. Why? Because while these vehicles may have been declared dead in Manhattan, the residents of the Fly-Over states have kept buying them.

The SUV is dead  long live the SUV - Autos- msnbc.com
Just another reason why the U.S. automakers are doomed to die a slow but certain death...

Once the economy rebounds, and gas goes back up to $3.50+ per gallon, then Chrysler, and probably GM, will finally die and be laid to rest...
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Old 04-10-2009, 11:26 PM
 
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My Jeep has a turning radius of 16.8'. It turns on a dime! It's great for squeezing between rocks on the trail or cars in a parking lot.
Sweet! I always wanted a Jeep, but can't really justify it. Who knows what I'll end up driving!
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Old 04-10-2009, 11:39 PM
 
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I just checked the Honda website (trust, but verify), and the stated turning radius for the Civic sedans are 34.8' and 35.4' for the current model year. Maybe they reduced it from previous models?

My car has a turning radius of 16.4'. Parking is a breeze, nearly anywhere.
By the way, the numbers you cited from the Honda website aren't turning radii, they're turning circles. It's not fundamentally different, really. It's just that a radius is half of a circle.

So, in order to compare apples to apples, your car has a turning circle of 32.8 feet.
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Old 04-10-2009, 11:59 PM
 
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It's a capitalist economy--carmakers produce what the public is willing to buy. The more product they sell (in this case, SUVs), the more profit they make. If they don't sell those SUVs, they suffer the consequences of of their actions. Responsibility--that's what makes America great, unlike socialist Europe, where the government props up failed economic models. (Ignore those headlines about the Swedish government refusing to bailout Saab).

This is like Alice in Wonderland.
I guess I buried the sarcasm too deep. If it weren't for our socialist government, we'd never be able to buy an American-made SUV again. So we have a choice--socialism, or buy Japanese.
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Old 04-11-2009, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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You hear about how oversized American asses love sitting in their oversized SUV's, and its so true. Look at all the fat people in this country, then look at all the oversized SUV's on the road, and you are reminded this is a nation that is raised on over consumption, just like capitalism was designed.

I cant wait for gas to go back to $4.00 a gallon, I love to see people pay for their SUV's at the pump, it makes me happy.
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Old 04-11-2009, 12:48 AM
 
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I say bring it on. When gas reaches 4 to $5 a gallon you will see these same folks whine in front of the television camera when a journalist does one of those spot interviews...

There are plenty of SUVs that get good gas mileage these days. Its not like the 90s and early 2000 SUVs that were getting 10 MPG anymore.
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