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Old 11-15-2008, 10:33 AM
 
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Old 11-15-2008, 10:41 AM
 
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Sure I can resolve it for you:

snopes.com: Is Barack Obama a natural-born citizen of the U.S.?

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...ertificate.jpg

Not really too difficult actually just had that Google at my fingertips!
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Old 11-15-2008, 10:42 AM
 
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Me too. Done and done Trollmeister.

FactCheck.org: Born in the U.S.A.
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Old 11-15-2008, 10:53 AM
 
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Me too. Done and done Trollmeister.

FactCheck.org: Born in the U.S.A.
That is not a birth certificate, but a certificate of live birth. Hawaii and other states has issued this form to many people, but the original vault (long-form) birth certificate is what is needed to document that Obama is a "Natural Born Citizen" and meets the requirements of the Constitution to serve as POTUS.
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Old 11-15-2008, 11:06 AM
 
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That is not a birth certificate, but a certificate of live birth. Hawaii and other states has issued this form to many people, but the original vault (long-form) birth certificate is what is needed to document that Obama is a "Natural Born Citizen" and meets the requirements of the Constitution to serve as POTUS.
Kooter, I didn't know the difference until you made me check this out. I have to admit that you might be raising a valid point. I have read that some officials in Hawaii have seen the birth certificate, and say it is valid. Now I seriously wonder why Obama will not just produce the thing and put this to rest. The response I get from some people is that he should not be buying into this, but my view is that if there is any truth to this, we need to know NOW. I take back my troll comments, and will strive to investigate more thoroughly in the future.
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Old 11-15-2008, 11:26 AM
 
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Kooter, I didn't know the difference until you made me check this out. I have to admit that you might be raising a valid point. I have read that some officials in Hawaii have seen the birth certificate, and say it is valid. Now I seriously wonder why Obama will not just produce the thing and put this to rest. The response I get from some people is that he should not be buying into this, but my view is that if there is any truth to this, we need to know NOW. I take back my troll comments, and will strive to investigate more thoroughly in the future.
No problem! I understand. At first glance people may think this issue is nothing more than sour grapes, but it is not. Everyone needs to open their eyes and be reasonable and logical about this very serious issue that faces all of us.

As for what Hawaii has confirmed about Obama's birth - it is two things so far:

1. They have possession of a birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama, a.k.a. Barry Soetoro

2. This birth certificate they are in possession of is VALID.

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What they have not confirmed (conclusively and publicly) is:

1. That Obama is a NATURAL BORN United States Citizen, as is required by U.S. law in order to be sworn-in as President of the United States.

2. Precisely WHERE Barack Hussein Obama, a.k.a. Barry Soetoro was actually born.
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Old 11-15-2008, 11:41 AM
 
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What hospital was he born in?
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Old 11-15-2008, 11:54 AM
 
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What hospital was he born in?
Reports by Obama's own sister in two separate interviews state that he was born at two different hospitals– Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital–in Honolulu. Neither hospitals can be confirmed!

According to Obama’s Kenyan (paternal) grandmother, as well as his half-brother and half-sister, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii as the Democratic candidate for president claims. His grandmother bragged that her grandson is about to be President of the United States and is so proud because she was present DURING HIS BIRTH IN KENYA, in the delivery room.

It is believed that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.
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Old 11-15-2008, 11:56 AM
 
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No problem! I understand. At first glance people may think this issue is nothing more than sour grapes, but it is not. Everyone needs to open their eyes and be reasonable and logical about this very serious issue that faces all of us.

As for what Hawaii has confirmed about Obama's birth - it is two things so far:

1. They have possession of a birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama, a.k.a. Barry Soetoro

2. This birth certificate they are in possession of is VALID.

=======================================

What they have not confirmed (conclusively and publicly) is:

1. That Obama is a NATURAL BORN United States Citizen, as is required by U.S. law in order to be sworn-in as President of the United States.

2. Precisely WHERE Barack Hussein Obama, a.k.a. Barry Soetoro was actually born.
Thanks for graciously understanding my knee-jerk reaction. Many things can be swept under the rug, i.e. the current President's A.W.O.L. time from military service, however this appears to be a serious issue that will not just go away. It needs to be resolved before Obama is sworn in. Let's just say hypothetically it is discovered that Obama was not born in the U.S. What would occur then? Would there be another election?
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Old 11-15-2008, 11:57 AM
 
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Reports by Obama's own sister in two separate interviews state that he was born at two different hospitals– Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital–in Honolulu. Neither hospitals can be confirmed!

According to Obama’s Kenyan (paternal) grandmother, as well as his half-brother and half-sister, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii as the Democratic candidate for president claims. His grandmother bragged that her grandson is about to be President of the United States and is so proud because she was present DURING HIS BIRTH IN KENYA, in the delivery room.

It is believed that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.
Wait wait wait, if he was born of an american woman, would that not still automatically grant him american citizenship...if not the ability to easily get american citizenship..i don't think even if he was born out of the country that it matters...his mother was an american.
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