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Old 11-14-2008, 09:42 PM
 
Location: The Planet Mars
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And we will be looking to the Messiah for similar admissions in the coming term.
Anyone who refers to Obama as the 'messiah' is nothing but an ignorant, easily manipulated person who has been brainwashed by hate radio to despise Obama and to do all in their power to bring him down...

The rest of the country will move on and support Obama - and never look at this pathetic road-kill in their rear-view mirrors...
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Old 11-14-2008, 10:39 PM
 
Location: el paso tx.
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I agree people need to give Obama a chance.
He is going to be the next President and we need to stand by him at all times.
Maybe this time we the people will be kinder to this president then some people were to president Bush.


Thank you President Bush for fighting for our country when no-one wanted to.
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:40 AM
 
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Bush has taken an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies three times in his life, the NG, and two terms in office.

And he has yet to do so.
Perhaps because he couldn't see his inner bin laden. Could this be like fight club? No one looked in the white house.

The constitution is "Just a piece of paper" said Bush. I rest my case.
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:51 AM
 
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**It takes a special kind of man to stand by your convictions."

Does this include the good and honest men who had the courage to stand by their convictions to refuse to go to war in distant lands when their own country is not in peril from without, and there is so little to be accomplished by such a war but death and destruction to innocent lives?

(If you feel that this response is inappropriate, you shouldn't have posted your OP under "politics and other controversies").
Which "men" would those be? Kerry? Kennedy? Clinton (Bill or Hill)? Pelosi?

They were ok with going to war before they weren't and needed something to swing the country against Bush given the '04 election around the corner.

Missing the "courage" factor there.
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:55 AM
 
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Bush has taken an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies three times in his life, the NG, and two terms in office.

And he has yet to do so.
Could you be more specific? I'm sorry, but I missed the terrorist attacks that occured after 9/11/01?
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:57 AM
 
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I don't usuallly wish cruel things on people, but I hope Bush lives a long life and retains his lucidity and can watch for many decades as the world and the nation play out according to the course he has set, and have time to reflect on the day he will meet his Maker..
Could you give some examples with proof to back up what you spew? Seriously...you're all rhetoric all the time.

What exactly did Bush do that didn't have the support of "your boys" in congress?

Can you defend, in the same breath, KKK Byrd? Good to have a head dragon in congress as long as he's a democrat?
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Old 11-15-2008, 01:07 AM
 
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More right-wing Messiah talk. No actually sentient person sees Obama as a Messiah. If he turns out to be one, it will be despite expectations. What many people with functional brains do realize, however, is that Obama is by far a better choice to lead this country at the present time than John McCain, or frankly, any other Republican. That is why the election turned out the way it did...
No. What happened is a man with no experience is now "potus elect" b/c the ability to think for oneself went down the toilet a long time ago...no war President is ever popular. Yet in the past, the American public wasn't so dense that they couldn't see reality for what it was. This generation...pathetic.

Fact is that Obamess is being cast by the same MSM (that threw Bush under the bus) as some "messiah". What do YOU or anyone else who voted for Obamess know about what he did for Acorn? What do you know about Obamess at all? Other than his mom was white and his dad was black and somehow Obamess had no money yet went to Harvard and pulled in a cool 4.3 million last year? He's a lawyer. Trained to sway people with double-speak and the like. All the lawyers get elected b/c they can speak a good game. Proof will be in the pudding and Obamess is mixing his up with skim.
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Old 11-15-2008, 01:12 AM
 
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Perhaps because he couldn't see his inner bin laden. Could this be like fight club? No one looked in the white house.

The constitution is "Just a piece of paper" said Bush. I rest my case.
Did you have an argument before you rested your case? I missed it?
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Old 11-15-2008, 01:20 AM
 
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Anyone who refers to Obama as the 'messiah' is nothing but an ignorant, easily manipulated person who has been brainwashed by hate radio to despise Obama and to do all in their power to bring him down...

The rest of the country will move on and support Obama - and never look at this pathetic road-kill in their rear-view mirrors...
And the same goes for all the Bush haters. Not one of them can state FACTS as to anything they spew. Easily manipulated by the media to hate Bush. Sorry bunch of sheep.

How about stating a few facts as to Obama's experience and what he's done to prove worthy of even running let alone being elected?

How about clearing him of his association with Acorn and the connection to the housing debacle? Can you do that with FACTS? You can't. The MSM ignored it...so you'd have no clue.

I would guess that 99% of the poeple who voted for Obamess didn't even care to be informed. Their blind hate pushed that button for them.

Go America! Home of the easily swayed, heads in the sand and hands in the wallets of those who don't whine their way around working for a living.
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Old 11-15-2008, 05:25 AM
 
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No. What happened is a man with no experience is now "potus elect" b/c the ability to think for oneself went down the toilet a long time ago...
Certainly many have mistaken the mouthing of prefab right-wing rant and propaganda for independent thinking over the years. Simply dipping your cup into the well of the right-wing disinformation media is so much easier than finding and connecting all the dots on your own. There is a price to be paid for such convenience, however. It is a steep price. People aren't so willing to pay it anymore, and who can blame them? Look around at what it has brought them. A landscape of disgrace and failure as far as the eye can see. Failure. An abject, smarmy, and persistent eight years worth of failure by the Republicans. That's what elected Barack Obama.

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...no war President is ever popular.
Certainly not those who manufacture unwise and unnecessary wars and then fail at them.

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Yet in the past, the American public wasn't so dense that they couldn't see reality for what it was. This generation...pathetic.
From what I see, you could be a spokesman for them on TV.

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Fact is that Obamess is being cast by the same MSM (that threw Bush under the bus) as some "messiah".
I'm afraid you're merely trying to downplay the moment. It is significant that a non-white can win. Not just barely, but convincingly. In a rout. The effect of that upon society will be significant and enduring, but time to relish the moment will pass. Eight years of Republican rule have devastated the nation. It's turned out much worse than what we had feared or thought possible. Obama's job will be to try to stop the bleeding. Any more that he can accomplish will be gravy.

As for the media, in stark contrast to their treatment of Bill Clinton, the MSM have given Bush a free ride. Right from the Fall of 1999, when he said he wasn't going to discuss his cocaine use, and the media said "Oh, okay." Protect profits by cutting actual journalism. Just pick up the White House press release and write a story about that. Have a nice lunch with an "insider", then take his leaked administration talking point and publish it as if it were a scoop. Oh, and make sure none of that "liberal bias" (aka, actual fact) gets in there. Face it. The media wimps have been in Bush's hip pocket. There hasn't been a bus in sight.

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What do YOU or anyone else who voted for Obamess know about what he did for Acorn?
Ah, ACORN. The failed swift-boat issue of 2008. Turns out that most Americans are actually in favor of what people like ACORN do. They believe that banks should be sued when they deliberately discriminate against low- and moderate-income people. They aren't surprised when political campaigns hire such groups to do turn-out-the-vote work in close elections. And they certainly don't find it unpatriotic to conduct voter registration drives. A lot of them participate in one within their own communities. You really struck out with that whole ACORN deal, didn't you. One big flop for you. And another one on November 4.

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What do you know about Obamess at all? Other than his mom was white and his dad was black and somehow Obamess had no money yet went to Harvard and pulled in a cool 4.3 million last year? He's a lawyer. Trained to sway people with double-speak and the like. All the lawyers get elected b/c they can speak a good game. Proof will be in the pudding and Obamess is mixing his up with skim.
Write a best-selling book or two and see how your tax returns look. For the Obama's, 2007 went this way...Salaried income: $260,735 Net profit from books: $3,943,378. Since you aren't anywhere near as bright or interesting or insightful as Obama, I don't think you could pull such a thing off, but go ahead and give it your best shot. Could help to pay off your student loans, assuming that you have any.
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