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Old 08-06-2008, 09:46 AM
 
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I have to wonder, from some of the comments I have read, if 'anti-diversity' is really just veiled racism.
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:48 AM
 
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I have to wonder, from some of the comments I have read, if 'anti-diversity' is really just veiled racism.
I hope you weren't referring to me. I live in a "diverse" neighborhood and I personally love it, and it's very safe, look up my location and it's grown more diverse in the past few years. But there is a relatively common bond shared that you would also notice if you looked it up. It's not socioeconomically diverse at all, for better or for worse, but I had to choose other factors other than just diversity when I chose a place to live (although I did make it a factor because I find culturally homogeneous neighborhoods boring), and this was the best I could do. My friend network is very mixed in viewpoints, economic status and cultures, but my city isn't in the former two.

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Old 08-06-2008, 09:49 AM
 
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No. Seriously, a lot of us like living among people from different backgrounds from whom we learn different perspectives. We like being able to frequent restaurants that offer cuisines from elsewhere in the world. We like exposing our childrent to people from different backgrounds in order to give them a better-informed view of the world. What is it about diversity that makes it so hard for some of you to understand?

And yes, to answer some of the coded speak on this thread, although I'm a liberal living in a diverse urban neighborhood, I do have politically conservative friends as well. See? Diversity in all forms.
I've lived in plenty of neighborhoods comprised of different nationalities and ethnic backgrounds but I've found the people in these diverse areas often times are just as narrow minded as certain neighborhoods that don't appear diverse. Currently I do live in an ethnically mixed area. I didn't choose to live here because of the ethnic makeup of the area but because of the proximity to my work. I even looked at living in areas where I would have been the minority but opted not to move there because it would have cost more time and money to commute to work. I used to live in the midtown area of Hartford which is a city where only about 10% of the population is caucasian. I was minority in that neighborhood and when it came to choosing that location, the racial demographic of the neighborhood wasn't even a criterion.

What it comes down to is simple, most white people that want diversity only are interested in living among people that appear different but are not different from they with their political and social views. And as a previous poster stated White Guilt has a lot to do with this. I know because I have family members that are like this. They won't accept someone who has different political views or ideas but they will accept someone simply because they don't "look" like they do. I call that kind of discrimination equally as insidious as that of the discrimination along racial, ethnic or religious lines.

Most minorities seem to prefer to live in neighborhoods with people of their own ethnic background. And in this day and age that does appear to be by choice and not due to steering from real estate agents. Most Asians seem to stay in Asian neighborhoods, hispanics in their own neighborhoods, blacks in their own and so on. Those people that have married outside of their race or like you, want to experience something different, may choose to live in a more ethnically mixed neighborhood or community. To each his own.
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Old 08-06-2008, 09:57 AM
 
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I have to wonder, from some of the comments I have read, if 'anti-diversity' is really just veiled racism.

Depends on the reasons.

Personally, I'm not that big of fan of diversity. I know what I like and like to be around people who share common ideas, activities, etc. I don't care where they are from or what color their skin is, but typically since I'm white and grew up with a particular culture, I tend to share more commonalities with other whites, more specifically those that are between 25-40 with southern roots.

So personally, its just because I'm very comfortable with myself and the culture I grew up in. Me and my wife still get out and about and mix in well with people from all races/backgrounds just because we like to meet people from everywhere. But its just natural for a lot of people to gravitate towards things they are most familiar with. Doesn't make it wrong unless they are gravitating away from other races/ethnicities/culture because they hate it.
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:00 AM
 
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I love diversity because of the different mix of hot foreign women!
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Stanwood, Washington
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Cultural diversity does nothing more than dilute strength.

When the feminist agenda began being pushed hard in the 60s, more men chose homosexuality to embrace their 'feminie side' and there has been no good side to any nation whose men have weakened. Cultural diversity is another tool to weaken the nation. Come on PC-people, let's hear your cries. I'm ready.
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:04 AM
 
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Another aspect of this that I find funny is that many of the white people who are yearning for this diversity are not welcome in the neighborhood that they move to in order to acheive it.
It tends to gentrify a neighborhood, raising costs all across the board and pushing the people who have been there for years, or their children, out.
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:06 AM
 
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Why, because you can go down the street and get a falafel? Is that really more important than strong, safe neighborhoods? Yes, diverse neighborhoods also tend to have higher crime rates.

I'm not arguing against diversity. I happen to live in an extremely diverse neighborhood. I just wonder whether the whole diversity thing is a result of white people's self hate and guilt. It really is only white people who cherish the concept.
White guilt, are you kidding me? Are you saying you have more in common than, let's say, an uneducated lower-class white person than you do with an educated middle/upper-middle class minority?

It's about SOCIOECONOMICS. I don't know why so many people are too dumb to think further than RACE. There is more to it than just skin color.
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:08 AM
 
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Why? Because some of us really like diversity.

I love Diversity!
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Stanwood, Washington
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No. Seriously, a lot of us like living among people from different backgrounds from whom we learn different perspectives. We like being able to frequent restaurants that offer cuisines from elsewhere in the world. We like exposing our childrent to people from different backgrounds in order to give them a better-informed view of the world. What is it about diversity that makes it so hard for some of you to understand?
That is not cultural diversity, that is preference. CD is a set of standards to live by as a mantra, on the road to socialism. We are all equal... we all have the same abilities to learn, grow and teach... our home standards should all respect other cultures to be inclusive... our home standards must be required to not merely respect but prefer other cultures to give them what we have in the majority... we must all be provided for equally... we must compensate minorities for the loss of opportunity their forefathers endured...

There are two forms of racism, one that ignores minority groups and one that exaggerates minority groups. It ends when there is only one color, only one legal preference, one acceptable home standard. If you read history, you know this is true and you know what happens to those nations. Just because this is America, don't think it's not happening here, too.

My mexican friends know all the best spots to eat!
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