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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.88%
No 254 50.40%
Unsure 49 9.72%
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Old 09-11-2022, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Why the F does this apply to us
One example: Presumably U.S. companies are churning out weapons of war and related equipment and stimulating the U.S. economy by doing so. Customers probably include other countries who are also supplying Ukraine. I can’t see any of this stuff being manufactured in China.
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Old 09-11-2022, 04:42 AM
 
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One example: Presumably U.S. companies are churning out weapons of war and related equipment and stimulating the U.S. economy by doing so. Customers probably include other countries who are also supplying Ukraine. I can’t see any of this stuff being manufactured in China.
The HIMARS sales are going well. Poland alone has ordered 500. However, reducing Russia's ability to further expand is more important to me. For example, Russia has practically militarized the Arctic and put Canada at risk. The cost of the Ukraine war should slow Russia's land grab elsewhere significantly.
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Old 09-11-2022, 04:44 AM
 
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Long line of cars from Karkhiv waiting to get into Russia. Reportedly, they've been waiting in line for a couple of days now.

Not sure what the hold up is. Weren't they all issued Russian passports not too long ago?
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Old 09-11-2022, 04:47 AM
 
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Snark aside, it is understandable why pro-Russian Ukrainians would want to get out ASAP. Everyone in every town, every village knows who they are.
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Old 09-11-2022, 04:55 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Snark aside, it is understandable why pro-Russian Ukrainians would want to get out ASAP. Everyone in every town, every village knows who they are.

Good. Let them go to Russia where they belong and where they will feel at home. Have a nice life. If it is Ukraine's destiny to stay with the west, than they won't miss the Russia sympathizers.
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Old 09-11-2022, 06:12 AM
 
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Good. Let them go to Russia where they belong and where they will feel at home. Have a nice life. If it is Ukraine's destiny to stay with the west, than they won't miss the Russia sympathizers.
Russian sympathizers would be wise to head to Russia, regardless of where they live.

I've read that many of the younger generation have given up on a future in Russia, and have left to begin new lives elsewhere.

Not sure how they will be treated, but I'm guessing they will lose that Russian accent, or, more likely, start claiming to be Ukrainian as soon as the war is over.

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Old 09-11-2022, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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The Russians are not retreating...they are advancing in the opposite direction.
Kyiv: "The first phase of our special military operation is complete. This was a merely a feint."

Snake Island: "We're leaving as a gesture of goodwill."

Kharkiv: "We're not retreating, we're regrouping to protect Donbas."
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Old 09-11-2022, 08:09 AM
 
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Russian soldier calling to find out how to surrender…


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGwgS8Z6utw
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Old 09-11-2022, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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Russian MoD map shows Russians have retreated behind the Oksil River.

https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1...YgWWDZ9NQ&s=19
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Old 09-11-2022, 08:35 AM
 
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Update 9/10....these are getting posted later and later...wonder why. This is taking on all the signatures of a failed campaign

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...t-september-10

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The Ukrainian counteroffensive in Kharkiv Oblast is routing Russian forces and collapsing Russia’s northern Donbas axis.

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Russian forces are not conducting a controlled withdrawal and are hurriedly fleeing southeastern Kharkiv Oblast to escape encirclement around Izyum. Russian forces have previously weakened the northern Donbas axis by redeploying units from this area to Southern Ukraine, complicating efforts to slow the Ukrainian advance or at minimum deploy a covering force for the retreat. Ukrainian gains are not confined to the Izyum area; Ukrainian forces reportedly captured Velikiy Burluk on September 10, which would place Ukrainian forces within 15 kilometers of the international border.[1] Ukrainian forces have penetrated Russian lines to a depth of up to 70 kilometers in some places and captured over 3,000 square kilometers of territory in the past five days since September 6 – more territory than Russian forces have captured in all their operations since April.
Ukrainian forces will likely capture the city of Izyum itself in the next 48 hours if they have not already done so.

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) announced the withdrawal of troops from the Balakliya-Izyum line on September 10, falsely framing the retreat as a “regrouping” of forces to support Russian efforts in the Donetsk Oblast direction – mirroring the Kremlin’s false explanation for the Russian withdrawal after the Battle of Kyiv.

The Russian MoD’s inability to admit Russian failures in Kharkiv Oblast and effectively set information conditions is collapsing the Russian information space.

The withdrawal announcement further alienated the Russian milblogger and Russian nationalist communities that support the Kremlin’s grandiose vision for capturing the entirety of Ukraine.

Russian milbloggers also criticized the Russian occupation authorities for failing to organize evacuation measures in Kharkiv Oblast.
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Ukrainian forces in Kharkiv Oblast are collapsing Russia’s northern Donbas axis, and Ukrainian forces will likely recapture Izyum itself in the next 48 hours.

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) announced the withdrawal of troops from the Balakliya-Izyum line on September 10, and the Russian MoD’s failure to set effective information conditions is collapsing the Russian information space.

The withdrawal announcement and occupation authorities’ failure to organize evacuation measures is further alienating the Russian milblogger and Russian nationalist communities that support the Kremlin’s grandiose vision of capturing the entirety of Ukraine.

Ukrainian forces reached positions within 15–25km of the Russo-Ukrainian border in northeastern Kharkiv Oblast, Izyum’s northern outskirts, and Lyman’s south and southwestern outskirts, and captured the western half of Kupyansk.

Russian forces are reinforcing frontline positions in Kherson Oblast while Ukrainian forces conduct positional battles and continue their interdiction campaign against Russian logistics lines.

Russian forces conducted limited ground assaults north of Kharkiv City, south of Bakhmut, and west of Donetsk City.

Russian recruitment drives are generating some criticism among Russian milbloggers and regions.

Russian forces are reportedly intensifying filtration measures in Kherson and Zaporizhia Oblasts in response to Ukrainian counteroffensives on the Southern Axis.
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Russian forces are reportedly intensifying filtration measures in Kherson and Zaporizhia Oblasts in response to Ukrainian counteroffensives on the Southern Axis. The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Russian forces and Russian Security Service (FSB) elements deployed from Russia are searching for civilians who assist Ukrainian forces and are checking civilian mobile phones in Nova Kakhovka.[71] The Ukrainian General Staff reported similar filtration practices in Enerhodar.

Russian occupation authorities are further restricting the movement of goods from Ukraine into occupied territories that will likely impact the transport of humanitarian cargo. Head of the Zaporizhia Occupation Administration Yevheny Balitsky announced a complete ban on September 10 of commercial cargo transport to occupied territories through the checkpoint at Vasylivka, Zaporizhia Oblast.[72] Occupation authorities will likely use the ban on cargo transportation at Vasylivka to justify preventing humanitarian convoys from entering occupied Zaporizhia Oblast from unoccupied Ukraine.
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