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Old 07-23-2022, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Igor Girken



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A series of equidistant accurate hits along one lane of the Darevsky bridge across the Ingulets river.
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Nothing like showing the Ru forces in Kherson that if they don't withdraw, then they risk being cut off.
This is psychological warefare....look at the precision of the bombs from Ukraine.

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Old 07-23-2022, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Russia has lost...they just don't know it yet..
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Old 07-23-2022, 02:53 PM
 
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You sound desperate.

That war criminal Putin is losing his mind and your propaganda has gone into overdrive.

History has examples of the wives of leaders acting as envoys in times of crises. The example I remember most readily is Soong Mei-ling, the wife of Chiang Kai Shek coming to Washington and speaking before a joint session of the US Congress. We respect women like that.

The USA, unlike Russia, has an altruistic sense of decency and sympathy for nations that have been wronged, and we naturally dislike murdering autocrats like Putin.

Believe it or not, we have sympathy for Russia too. We feel sympathy for the people that they have to endure the lying and thieving kleptocracy of Vladimir Putin and we feel sad that their young people have to suffer and die for his mad schemes.
My sympathy for the Russian people is limited. They knew where Putin was heading when he first put up Medvedev as president. Then again when he had the constitution changed. The writing was on the wall, but the Russian people did nothing when they could have. And of course, now they claim that they can't. Time to go all 1905 on Putin, I think.
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Old 07-23-2022, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Russia is torturing captured pows until death..

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The rights group said it carried out interviews with dozens of people in the occupied regions of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, revealing 42 cases where Russian forces had either made civilians disappear or otherwise arbitrarily detained them.

Some had not had any contact with the outside world and many had been tortured. HRW also documented the torture of three members of Ukraine's Territorial Defense Forces who were POWs. Two of them died

https://indianexpress.com/article/wo...onbas-8046627/
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Old 07-23-2022, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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waiting for the next video of an attempted river crossing by the Russians...HIMARS anyone?..

https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status...537856/photo/1
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Old 07-23-2022, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Todays Update....it appears the Ukrainian Couteroffensive has begun and the fog of war associated with it has grown more dense. Ukrainians don't want to give away their movements and advances and Russia doesn't want to admit they are occurring.

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...ssment-july-23

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Ukrainian forces are likely preparing to launch or have launched a counteroffensive in Kherson Oblast as of July 23, but open-source visibility on the progress and tempo of the counteroffensive will likely be limited and lag behind events.

Ukrainian Kherson Oblast Administration Adviser Serhiy Khlan stated on July 23 that Ukrainian forces have seized unspecified settlements in Kherson Oblast but called on Ukrainian civilians to remain silent on the progress of the counteroffensive until Ukrainian authorities release official statements.[1] Foreign Policy National Security Reporter Jack Detsch reported on July 22 that an unspecified senior US defense official stated that Ukrainian forces have recaptured unspecified “portions of Russian-occupied villages” in Kherson over the past week of July 15-22, indicating that Ukrainian forces have made some unspecified territorial advances along frontlines.[2] The area between the front line and Kherson City is rural and primarily composed of small settlements that are less likely to report on force movements and engagements, allowing control-of-terrain in this area to change without evidence appearing in open-source reporting. Russian authorities additionally have no incentive to report on Ukrainian territorial gains. The informational dynamics that allow ISW to report on Russian offensive operations with relatively little lag are thus inverted in this situation. ISW will report on the progress of any Ukrainian counteroffensives to the best of its ability within these constraints.

Head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov seemingly confirmed that Colonel General Sergey Kuzovlev has replaced Army General Aleksandr Dvornikov as acting commander of Russia’s Southern Military District (SMD)
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Ukrainian forces are likely preparing to launch, or have already launched, a counteroffensive in Kherson Oblast.

Head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov indicated that Colonel General Sergey Kuzovlev is the acting commander of the Southern Military District.

Russian forces conducted limited reconnaissance operations east of Bakhmut and continued limited ground attacks northwest of Slovyansk, east of Siversk, and south of Bakhmut.

The Kremlin continued to form regional volunteer battalions and likely intends to have 16 such battalions formed by the end of July.

Russian occupation authorities are continuing to prepare for referenda on the annexation of occupied areas into the Russian Federation and are taking measures to isolate occupied areas from the non-Russian information space.
Activity in Russian-occupied Areas

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Russian occupation officials continued to set conditions for referenda on the integration of occupied areas into the Russian Federation. Russian-backed head of Zaporizhia’s occupation administration Yevheny Balitsky stated on July 23 that he signed a decree to initiate preparations for a referendum on the integration of occupied Zaporizhia Oblast into Russia by the autumn of 2022.[28] Balitsky claimed that this decree eliminated existing election bodies and created an entirely new election commission.

Russian-backed occupation administrators escalated measures to further isolate occupied areas from the non-Russian information space. Occupation heads of Kherson and Zaporizhia oblasts announced on July 23 that they will start restricting the use of Google and YouTube in occupied areas in order to limit the ability of residents to search for Ukrainian websites on Google.[29] Kherson occupation Head Kirill Stremousov stated that he additionally banned the use of the Viber messaging app and that YouTube video hosting has been slowed down. The Luhansk and Donetsk People’s Republics (LNR and DNR) blocked Google on July 21 and 22, respectively.[30] Russian authorities are likely to keep enacting such controls on the information space in order to curb the dissemination of any anti-Russian messaging.
My heart goes out the Ukrainians living under Russia Occupation.
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Old 07-23-2022, 05:55 PM
 
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Those pinpoint hits down the middle of the bridge should tell every Russian everything they need to know about us weapons.
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Old 07-23-2022, 05:57 PM
 
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Those pinpoint hits down the middle of the bridge should tell every Russian everything they need to know about US weapons.
Exactly so.

There is a message in it for them waiting to be read.
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Old 07-23-2022, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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I'm leaving this article here to show it's not all one-sided like Western news articles state.

"MOSCOW, July 24. /TASS/. Russian air defense systems repelled a strike from the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Melitopol, said Vladimir Rogov, a member of the main council of the military-civilian administration of the Zaporozhye region."

https://tass.com/world/1484059

"The West should stop arming Ukraine and work for a peace settlement instead, Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban said at an annual retreat for supporters in Baile Tusnad, Romania."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rain-available

I agree with Prime Minister Viktor Orban, no more weapons or money for Ukraine. This past week the U.S. authorized $270 million in another security package for Ukraine, only to prolong this war.

https://www.defense.gov/News/Release...(USAI)%20funds.
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Old 07-23-2022, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I'm leaving this article here to show it's not all one-sided like Western news articles state.

"MOSCOW, July 24. /TASS/. Russian air defense systems repelled a strike from the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Melitopol, said Vladimir Rogov, a member of the main council of the military-civilian administration of the Zaporozhye region."

https://tass.com/world/1484059

"The West should stop arming Ukraine and work for a peace settlement instead, Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban said at an annual retreat for supporters in Baile Tusnad, Romania."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rain-available

I agree with Prime Minister Viktor Orban, no more weapons or money for Ukraine. This past week the U.S. authorized $270 million in another security package for Ukraine, only to prolong this war.

https://www.defense.gov/News/Release...(USAI)%20funds.
With virtually zero push back from the American people.

Orban is an autocratic Putin stooge and really does not belong in NATO
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