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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.88%
No 254 50.40%
Unsure 49 9.72%
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Old 09-20-2023, 03:32 AM
 
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How could anybody ever listen to the ISW?
It's a Victoria Nuland propaganda outlet.

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Old 09-20-2023, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Denys update...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW4Cm7IL0lM
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Old 09-20-2023, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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How could anybody ever listen to the ISW?
It's a Victoria Nuland propaganda outlet.
Thank you for detailed critique.
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Old 09-20-2023, 08:36 AM
 
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In rare turn around. NYTs contradicts Zelensky and says Ukraine nor Russia launched missile that took out village.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...asualty-strike
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Old 09-20-2023, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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In rare turn around. NYTs contradicts Zelensky and says Ukraine nor Russia launched missile that took out village.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...asualty-strike
Even if this is a mishap, which is questionable, do you really want to bring up Russia killing innocent women and children wholesale during the "SMO"??
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Old 09-20-2023, 11:21 AM
 
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Denmark will donate 45 more tanks to Ukraine. Denmark has a population of 8.5M people. 45 tanks is very generous of Denmark.


https://youtu.be/p2iyg3y4jHw
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Old 09-20-2023, 11:31 AM
 
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Denmark will donate 45 more tanks to Ukraine. Denmark has a population of 8.5M people.
More like 5.8M. People who grow up in small countries next to big countries probably think differently.

They're Leo1s - not the latest and greatest as regards crew protection. But they have a good gun, very good stabilization, optics & sensors, and very, very good mobility.
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Old 09-20-2023, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Update on Zelensky biting the hand that feeds him again.

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Zelensky Criticizes the U.N. and Presents Peace Plan to End the War
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/09...0the%20Council.

Defense partnership through insulting the western world: the Zelensky way.

No good deed goes unpunished.
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Old 09-20-2023, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Denmark will donate 45 more tanks to Ukraine.
They should drive them straight into Russian defensive lines like the rest of them, rofl.
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Old 09-20-2023, 01:23 PM
 
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More like 5.8M. People who grow up in small countries next to big countries probably think differently.

They're Leo1s - not the latest and greatest as regards crew protection. But they have a good gun, very good stabilization, optics & sensors, and very, very good mobility.

They want leo1, it's much easier to fix them for Ukrainians.
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