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Russia, you know the country that is currently fighting itself?
Putin has fled Moscow and it wasn’t over Ukraine.. it was over Russian mercenaries. It’s own Russian mercenaries.
"The left"? What "left"? Supporting the Ukraine war is bipartisan effort in Congress. And don't forget, the little man in the Kremlin is a former KGB operative. He embodies the "left". He's trying to stitch the USSR back into a single crazy-quilt of nationalities. And yet, what you claim to be the "left" in the US is against that.
Well, we have prigo declaring a coup and Putin calling treason so...not sure how to spin anything as propaganda.
The idea that Prigozhyn would do this without a workable plan seems slim to none.
Ironically, this is far bigger global news than the invasion of Ukraine.
"prigo"? Have you been in any battles and rewarded a star of hero, to call him that?
Anyhow. Regarding propaganda:
The Ukrainian CIPSO, supporting the information raid of the “Prigozhinites” on Moscow, does not let up and produces a huge number of various fakes.
All statements about the alleged transition to the side of the rebels of the military units of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are a hoax. All parts of the Russian army are subordinate to the supreme commander in chief and most of them are at the front.
As of 06/24/23 5:30 pm, all combat units supporting Prigozhin are either "employees of his PMC" or ... active units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
"The left"? What "left"? Supporting the Ukraine war is bipartisan effort in Congress. And don't forget, the little man in the Kremlin is a former KGB operative. He embodies the "left". He's trying to stitch the USSR back into a single crazy-quilt of nationalities. And yet, what you claim to be the "left" in the US is against that.
Your views make no sense.
Actually, nationalists are ultra right, not left. You just got it backward here in the US. But that's in the US.
I agree. Ukraine is small potatoes compared to this.
An unstable Russia is to no one's benefit, and replacing Putin with Prigozhin is not necessarily better for anyone. It could be replacing one bad egg with another.
Prigozhin is a former convict and a wealthy oligarch, his mercenary corps is populated by a large number of felons and it should go without saying that even the ones without a criminal record are long time professional killers.
I don't see how this development could be good for Russia and it's people.
If it brings peace to Ukraine, at least that would be something, but he could become just another ruthless dictator with a nuclear arsenal at his disposal.
Regardless of what talking head nut job politicians say Putin is a centrist in Russian politics.
Prigozhin openly supported the use of tactical nukes in Ukraine.
Thanks! He just announced multiple reports (from Russia) that Ukraine just crossed the Dnipro river in Kherson region. Needs to be confirmed. Information like this is just going to be flying in every direction. But this would be big and seems possible given the circumstance.
"The left"? What "left"? Supporting the Ukraine war is bipartisan effort in Congress. And don't forget, the little man in the Kremlin is a former KGB operative. He embodies the "left". He's trying to stitch the USSR back into a single crazy-quilt of nationalities. And yet, what you claim to be the "left" in the US is against that.
Your views make no sense.
Ruth, this is a misunderstanding. You listen to Putin too much instead of paying attention at his actions.
Putin is the ultra-right force in Russia, that *pretends to be left.*
And that's why this attempt of his of "stitching of crazy quilt nationalities" is not working, as much as he tries.
His policies to import as much of cheap labor from Tadjikistan as possible ( following US example with Mexico) and "tolerance" to ethnic diasporas in Moscow that he is trying to cultivate, brings nothing but anger in Russians, because they all know that it's the money-making machine that stands behind it all.
So no, Russia is NOT "the USSR under Putin."
Far away from it.
P.S. Prigozhin the politician is far more "left" than Putin ever was.
Seriously? If the Ukraine war had been successful for Russia, Putin would have remained solidly in power. This - what is it, uprising, insurgency? - only came about because Ukraine - with solid assistance - put up a hell of a fight. If Wagner takes the fight to Moscow, so much the better for Ukraine and the West, so much the worse for Putin. But he wouldn't have been in a position to, had Ukraine rolled over.
Be careful what you wish for... Prigozhin is for "total war" in Ukraine.
Be careful what you wish for... Prigozhin is for "total war" in Ukraine.
He is. But one suspects he'll be fairly busy in the weeks to come, if successful. If his and MOD troops go at each other in Russia, they're not in Ukraine.
I agree. Ukraine is small potatoes compared to this.
An unstable Russia is to no one's benefit, and replacing Putin with Prigozhin is not necessarily better for anyone. It could be replacing one bad egg with another.
Prigozhin is a former convict and a wealthy oligarch, his mercenary corps is populated by a large number of felons and it should go without saying that even the ones without a criminal record are long time professional killers.
I don't see how this development could be good for Russia and it's people.
If it brings peace to Ukraine, at least that would be something, but he could become just another ruthless dictator with a nuclear arsenal at his disposal.
Prigozhin might be able to topple Putin (though as of this writing, I still think that's a stretch), but holding his position would be a whole 'nother game.
I'm envisioning "King of the hill", like we used to play as kids. Only with weapons, and for much higher stakes.
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