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Old 08-10-2021, 01:22 PM
 
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Old 08-10-2021, 01:22 PM
 
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The virus causing Covid 19 has very definitely been isolated and identified. How the heck would anyone know about the variants?
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Old 08-10-2021, 01:31 PM
 
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Neither has the vaccine. There is no vaccine that prevents Covid. The 'vaccines' out there do not say that they will prevent Covid. They aren't even based on an isolated virus sample. In fact, there has been no proof of anyone isolating the virus.

You 'may' not get it, (just like you may not get it without the vaccine). You can also still get it, and you might have mild symptoms, or you might also die, just like without the vaccine.

So, no, you're not 'following the science'.


It's much much less likely to be hospitalized, suffer serious complications, or die.
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Old 08-10-2021, 01:33 PM
 
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Scott Atlas, the Next Generation!
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Old 08-10-2021, 01:56 PM
 
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Boy oh boy, this is a rough thread. I would just like to point out that the plan to combat the covid pandemic by having vaccines in 9 months time was a republican plan, maybe they thought big pharma was going to give everyone free vaccines, or that phase 3 trials can happen in 6 months. I don't know but it wasn't a democrat plot to enrich big pharma.
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Old 08-10-2021, 02:20 PM
 
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Monolaurin, another potential weapon to add to the arsenal to help defeat/prevent Covid-19:

Monolaurin and RNA Enveloped Viruses: A Research Review
https://www.monolaurinandmore.com/ar...eloped-viruses

Along with L-Lysine, Zinc, Vitamin C, Vitamin D, and possibly Ivermectin.
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Old 08-10-2021, 07:02 PM
 
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That makes absolutely no sense. The prices for amino acid supplements that you are proposing are much, much higher than vaccine prices.

The vaccine costs under $20 per dose.. So a full course of vaccination costs about $40. Or, you can purchase $10 (cheapest I found on Amazon) bottles of your supplement, which comes to $60/year at their recommended dosage.

So the amino acid people have a vested interest in creating vaccine hesitancy, but vaccines are still cheaper.

Plus, we have not yet seen clinical trials for the efficacy of your proposed alternative, so we do not know how effective it will be. We do know that the various vaccines are highly effective, about 95%
Guess, you have not read the study.
According to them, You are not suppose to use the supplement for a year- it has bad health consequences. There is a certain protocol- which does look kookie- no caffeine, no exercise

The quoted research emphasized the limited time use as a treatment and specifically mentions that even supplement could be too expensive for some, especially in less prosperous countries.

They do understand that 80% of countries are poor- capitalism!

In this case they recommend a specific restricted diet which would lead to a natural, without supplementation specific ratio of 2 amino acids - which helps in recovery.

You think that the US has a problem with COVID?
Open your eyes to the world’s problem with COVID.

And, btw, just for the sake of argument- look up vaccines absolute risk reduction (Pfizer is less than 1%) vs relative risk reduction (Pfizer -95%) as in science vs marketing. Not my words - our FDA - pre-Covid

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Old 08-10-2021, 07:04 PM
 
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Monolaurin, another potential weapon to add to the arsenal to help defeat/prevent Covid-19:

Monolaurin and RNA Enveloped Viruses: A Research Review
https://www.monolaurinandmore.com/ar...eloped-viruses

Along with L-Lysine, Zinc, Vitamin C, Vitamin D, and possibly Ivermectin.
They don’t recommend supplementing zinc while on L-lysine.
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Old 08-10-2021, 07:18 PM
 
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Guess, you have not read the study.
You are not suppose to use the supplement for a year- it has bad health consequences.
Why would I read such drivel?

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The quoted research emphasized the limited time use as treatment and specifically mentions that even supplement could be too expensive for some, especially in less prosperous countries.
The OP referenced the use of this supplement as a preventative. That certainly implies using it long term.

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They do understand that 80% of countries are poor- capitalism!
Which is why the recommended something that is unproven and costs considerably more than the vaccine?

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In this case they recommend a specific restricted diet which would lead to a natural, without supplementation ratio of 2 amino acids - which helps in recovery.
Right, because recommending a diet (which people are notoriously hard at following) for global use (how to publicize this and educate people about it), with varying dietary habit and availability (and ability to afford) is realistic.

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You think that the US has a problem with COVID?
Open your eyes to the world’s problem with COVID.
I recognize that. We have a considerable problem, because even if the 1st world nations fully vaccinate, we have huge reservoir population that will keep this virus active for decades. Recommending a specific, relatively expensive, unproven dietary supplement is not the way to address this problem.
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Old 08-10-2021, 07:57 PM
 
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That makes absolutely no sense. The prices for amino acid supplements that you are proposing are much, much higher than vaccine prices.

The vaccine costs under $20 per dose.. So a full course of vaccination costs about $40. Or, you can purchase $10 (cheapest I found on Amazon) bottles of your supplement, which comes to $60/year at their recommended dosage.

So the amino acid people have a vested interest in creating vaccine hesitancy, but vaccines are still cheaper.

Plus, we have not yet seen clinical trials for the efficacy of your proposed alternative, so we do not know how effective it will be. We do know that the various vaccines are highly effective, about 95%
Great points
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