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Old 06-01-2021, 02:10 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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nonsense...

Then please, make sense of it. WHY should it be a crime to organize rides to the polls?
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Old 06-01-2021, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Then please, make sense of it. WHY should it be a crime to organize rides to the polls?
Because we have a very strong tradition in the US of treating voting as an independent act. No group should involve itself with election business. No offers should be made, nothing given, nothing taken. Voting is between a voter and the poll, independent of group activity. We have it this way for a very damn good reason.
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Old 06-01-2021, 03:37 PM
 
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Then please, make sense of it. WHY should it be a crime to organize rides to the polls?
this is what I said was nonsense .... R's love it because it specifically targets black, church-going voters. If they can take that sector out, they may still be able to cling to power.
Perhaps it is to prevent more of this...https://www.projectveritas.com/news/...uel-rodriguez/
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Old 06-01-2021, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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This should be treated as them walking out and giving the vote to those who stay (ie those who stay now have the vote to pass the legislation).

If the opposing minority side can simply walk out and cause a bill to fail, then there is no point for a majority or a minority and it tells the people that their votes mean nothing.

This is childish and typical of anti-intellectuals.
Actually no, the Republicans needed democrats present to vote. The couldn't reach quorum without the democrats. No quorum, no vote.
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Old 06-01-2021, 03:52 PM
 
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Are they walking all the way out of Texas?
One can only hope.
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Old 06-01-2021, 05:04 PM
 
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The bill’s final version, if it became law, would:

* Impose uniform statewide early voting hours
* Require all counties to have paper versions of electronic ballots by 2026
* Ban drive-thru voting and mail-in ballot drop boxes
* Further empower poll watchers, but gets rid of the previous section of the bill that would allow poll watchers to photograph suspected fraudulent activity Requires mail-in ballot applicants to provide an ID number
* Requires counties with populations over 100,000 to livestream areas containing completed ballots
* Judges can overturn an election without auditing how voters actually voted if the number of "illegal" votes is enough to change the outcome.
* It limits hours and methods in ways that target non-white voters who live in cities. This is done by banning Sunday voting before 1pm (attacking souls to polls drives), drive through voting, and voting after 9pm (demonstrably used more by voters of color in Harris County last election)
* Bans the practice of sending vote-by mail applications to registered voters without them asking for one. Something Lina Hidalgo spearheaded in Harris County last election because...y'know the pandemic. Also, it got more people to vote which scared Republicans
* It also gives the secretary of state the responsibility to monitor and clean voter roles if the number of registered voters doesn't match up with the number of people eligible. The problem with that is people move to different counties so it is rare for any numbers to match perfectly. If you take this voter role purging provision even more cynically, this feeds the narrative that there are illegal votes from dead people, double voting, and all that other nonsense and in cases where there are enough votes erroneously labeled "illegal" by our antidemocratic leadership, a judge can throw out the results


WTF?
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Old 06-01-2021, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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The bill’s final version, if it became law, would:

* Impose uniform statewide early voting hours
* Require all counties to have paper versions of electronic ballots by 2026
* Ban drive-thru voting and mail-in ballot drop boxes
* Further empower poll watchers, but gets rid of the previous section of the bill that would allow poll watchers to photograph suspected fraudulent activity Requires mail-in ballot applicants to provide an ID number
* Requires counties with populations over 100,000 to livestream areas containing completed ballots
* Judges can overturn an election without auditing how voters actually voted if the number of "illegal" votes is enough to change the outcome.
* It limits hours and methods in ways that target non-white voters who live in cities. This is done by banning Sunday voting before 1pm (attacking souls to polls drives), drive through voting, and voting after 9pm (demonstrably used more by voters of color in Harris County last election)
* Bans the practice of sending vote-by mail applications to registered voters without them asking for one. Something Lina Hidalgo spearheaded in Harris County last election because...y'know the pandemic. Also, it got more people to vote which scared Republicans
* It also gives the secretary of state the responsibility to monitor and clean voter roles if the number of registered voters doesn't match up with the number of people eligible. The problem with that is people move to different counties so it is rare for any numbers to match perfectly. If you take this voter role purging provision even more cynically, this feeds the narrative that there are illegal votes from dead people, double voting, and all that other nonsense and in cases where there are enough votes erroneously labeled "illegal" by our antidemocratic leadership, a judge can throw out the results


WTF?
If the Republicans pass this, I hope Democrats win out in Texas and then use this in 2024. Imagine the Republicans moaning they were for this before they were against it.
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Old 06-01-2021, 10:00 PM
 
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What is the governor scared of. There were no voting issues in Texas.
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Old 06-01-2021, 10:02 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Governor Abbott says he is going to suspend their pay...
Remember Texas is turning blue...
https://citizenfreepress.com/breakin...ntegrity-bill/
https://www.businessinsider.com/texa...ay-2021-5?op=1

https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...te-easy-v.html
Using the myth, that voting is so hard for minorities, is being used to make it easier to cheat.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-v...rats-walk-out/

Huge liberal cities, want to make it easier to cheat the vote. Mass mail-out ballots to anyone and everyone, without asking for a ballot in the first place.
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Old 06-01-2021, 10:04 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What is the governor scared of. There were no voting issues in Texas.
Houston made up their own voting laws during 2020... This was a huge issue. Mass mailout ballots occurred throughout Harris County.
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