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Old 05-30-2021, 07:48 AM
 
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i think the answer lies in the genesis of the issue. The west is enamored with the socialist construct and is using tribalism/race to get there.

Eastern Europe has done that and gotten the t-shirt. They arent going back.
If American whites start to abandon America and find homes in Russia and the Eastern European countries I could see them coming back with their new friends to liberate America someday from what it’s become.

 
Old 05-30-2021, 08:42 AM
 
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to the east? Are liberals fighting for Russia while pretending to fight against it? The Pedophile who rigged the election is now helping Putin setup a pipeline while destroying and shutting them down here.
I don't think white conservatives and white liberals from america will move to eastern Europe. For one Anglosaxon Protestantism is incompatible with the eastern othrodox church, sunni Islam and catholic church. Evangelism which is from the United States is incompatible with eastern othrodox church and will cause conflict. The only Americans moving to Eastern Europe are those looking for wives who are submissive.
 
Old 05-30-2021, 01:07 PM
 
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I don't think white conservatives and white liberals from america will move to eastern Europe. For one Anglosaxon Protestantism is incompatible with the eastern othrodox church, sunni Islam and catholic church. Evangelism which is from the United States is incompatible with eastern othrodox church and will cause conflict. The only Americans moving to Eastern Europe are those looking for wives who are submissive.
I've always thought that myself being born in the USA, being American, being Christian (a Roman Catholic convert no less), being an American, I figured that made me part of Western Civilization. I figured myself being an American, I'm part of a Western country and a western culture. If western civilization really means only White people of Western European background, I have to wonder where that leaves me, a Black American.

The Eastern Orthodox church is the majority church in Serbia, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine, Russia, Belarus, and Moldova. In the Czech Republic, most of the population is atheist. Slovakia is largely Catholic, but has a sizable Protestant population, mainly Lutheran. Poland is a Catholic country. The most Protestant country of the former Soviet states/Eastern bloc is Estonia, a mostly Lutheran country. Estonian culture is closer to Finland than Eastern Europe. In fact, it's only associated with Eastern Europe because it was annexed by the Soviet Union.

The way I see it, most of Eastern Europe won't be the savior of western civilization. When White Americans go to Eastern Europe, they might blend in, but they will be regarded as foreigners. It won't just be religious clashes. There will be language issues. Americans going to Eastern Europe will have to adapt to those cultures. Sometimes at the expense of their own culture.

Something else. Roman Catholism and Evangelical churches might be quite different. However, they dominate in western countries. Italy, Ireland, Portugal, Spain, etc.
 
Old 06-03-2021, 05:43 PM
 
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I've always thought that myself being born in the USA, being American, being Christian (a Roman Catholic convert no less), being an American, I figured that made me part of Western Civilization. I figured myself being an American, I'm part of a Western country and a western culture. If western civilization really means only White people of Western European background, I have to wonder where that leaves me, a Black American.

The Eastern Orthodox church is the majority church in Serbia, Montenegro, Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine, Russia, Belarus, and Moldova. In the Czech Republic, most of the population is atheist. Slovakia is largely Catholic, but has a sizable Protestant population, mainly Lutheran. Poland is a Catholic country. The most Protestant country of the former Soviet states/Eastern bloc is Estonia, a mostly Lutheran country. Estonian culture is closer to Finland than Eastern Europe. In fact, it's only associated with Eastern Europe because it was annexed by the Soviet Union.

The way I see it, most of Eastern Europe won't be the savior of western civilization. When White Americans go to Eastern Europe, they might blend in, but they will be regarded as foreigners. It won't just be religious clashes. There will be language issues. Americans going to Eastern Europe will have to adapt to those cultures. Sometimes at the expense of their own culture.

Something else. Roman Catholism and Evangelical churches might be quite different. However, they dominate in western countries. Italy, Ireland, Portugal, Spain, etc.
It's very weird and odd for an black American to be catholic. For me I'm an American. My parents are afro Colombian and are catholic. Your religion you grew up with shapes your world view when you get older. And yes. Countries like Italy Spain France, Ireland and Portugal are Roman catholic. America on the other hand is mostly a protestant nation with three main groups. Main line Protestant, evangelicals and the black church.
 
Old 06-03-2021, 05:55 PM
 
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It's very weird and odd for an black American to be catholic. For me I'm an American. My parents are afro Colombian and are catholic. Your religion you grew up with shapes your world view when you get older. And yes. Countries like Italy Spain France, Ireland and Portugal are Roman catholic. America on the other hand is mostly a protestant nation with three main groups. Main line Protestant, evangelicals and the black church.
It's not that odd in New Orleans from what I've heard.
 
Old 06-03-2021, 06:52 PM
 
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It's not that odd in New Orleans from what I've heard.
New Orleans and to a certain degree Maryland both have catholic foundations. States with catholic foundations are Maryland, but also places with Spanish and French place names. Maryland and Louisiana you will find black American catholics. From my observation, the blacks that tend to be catholic are Nigerians of igbo background Haitians, Trinidadians and afro latinos. This is what I have encountered.
 
Old 06-03-2021, 08:23 PM
 
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It's very weird and odd for an black American to be catholic. For me I'm an American. My parents are afro Colombian and are catholic. Your religion you grew up with shapes your world view when you get older. And yes. Countries like Italy Spain France, Ireland and Portugal are Roman catholic. America on the other hand is mostly a protestant nation with three main groups. Main line Protestant, evangelicals and the black church.
I don't find it weird at all. There are some Catholics in my family, specifically some members of my mother's side of the family (mom's side of the family is from Louisiana). I grew up in a Black Protestant church, but became Catholic later in life. There are some predominantly Black American Catholic churches in America. America might be predominantly Protestant, but we have a large Catholic population as well.
 
Old 06-03-2021, 08:30 PM
 
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I’ve always suspected you were raised right by good parents based on your posts. But I think you would agree you are in the small percentage of black people who are excelling in this culture. The vast majority are being raised in single parent households, taught no values and without any positive male role models. It’s a disaster by any measure and a complete failure.
It's more like 1 out of 2 black children being raised with in single parent homes. And you don't know how many of those persons have regular contact with their fathers, or who are living with their fathers. While not having a father around is a big issue, I find what you are saying to be exaggerated. I still have no reason to want to live in the pre-Civil Rights Act days.
 
Old 06-03-2021, 08:32 PM
 
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I understand the post. And he’s right. For example eastern Euro countries don’t tolerate illegal immigration and destruction of their own country and race. The west does. Why are western whites suicidal. Why are they afraid of defending their race from injustices? Or even talking about it?

I’m a first generation American. Parents and grandparents came from an eastern Euro country. Perhaps that was a mistake seeing the way things have been going in the U.S. in recent decades.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what America is if you think that fighting to keep America white is what it’s about.
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