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Eastern Europe largely stayed out of other people’s countries around the world. Western European descendants are not indigenous to the U.S. so they aren’t in the position to claim it all as theirs alone. Eastern Europeans, on the other hand, can do that in their nations. So since you think that it might have been a mistake for your parents and grandparents to immigrate to the U.S., will you be going back to your country of origin? Are you arguing that people of Western European heritage should do the same?
Well, parts of eastern Europe have made their attemps. There is a reason Russia is so big. It took over lands to its east. Russia has gone into other places. The USSR stretched from the Baltic regions to the deserts of Central Asia. The Russian Empire tried to take a piece of Africa, but France wouldn't allow it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagallo
Russia had Alaska for a while before selling it to the USA. There are Russian Orthodox churches in Alaska from the 18th and 19th century, where services are held in English. In fact, back in 2017, there were Russian nationalist extremists demanding that Alaska be given back to Russia.
I would find it very hypocritical for anyone who is a descendant of immigrants to demand anyone of a different race/ethnicity to "go back to their country". But then, we both have to understand why some people would demand such things.
Hungarians had a long romance with Socialism / Communism from 1945 to 1989 and they want none of it now. I got away in 1972, and returned once for a visit, 6 weeks only in 2016. I counted the days to return to California, but it was good to spend time with my only brother.
During my visit I had only seen a single homeless man in Budapest and I haven't seen even one during the "Communist romance". I'm not saying there are no homeless there, but compared to Seattle, San Francisco, Santa Monica, Budapest/Hungary is pretty much free from that cesspool.
In Hungary the average gross income is a fraction of what we make in the USA. So what is the secret? They are NOT politically correct, no sir, not these racist bastard Hungarians.
They don't embrace the refugees, the homeless, the drug addicts, and the list goes on.
As far as I remember, there wasn't a single suicide bomber or terrorist attack in Hungary, Romania, Poland, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic. There were no BLM marches and riots.
Political correctness is a cancer killing Western Civilization. Anyone here thinks that racism is bad now will have a rude awakening when China takes over the role of top dog in the junkyard, hell, they are almost there already.
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I would find it very hypocritical for anyone who is a descendant of immigrants to demand anyone of a different race/ethnicity to "go back to their country". But then, we both have to understand why some people would demand such things.
"Go back to your country" means "I don't want to share a country with you but I'm not leaving".
It's not reasonable to me, period. I don't think like that.
Is it not normal? Seems to me about as normal a human behavior as breathing. If you know history, it is practically universal. Only in recent years have people begun to believe anything else.
But why do they believe things that go against everything we know about history and human nature? Was it their idea? Or was it someone else's idea that was beat into their heads practically from birth?
I understand the post. And he’s right. For example eastern Euro countries don’t tolerate illegal immigration and destruction of their own country and race. The west does. Why are western whites suicidal. Why are they afraid of defending their race from injustices? Or even talking about it?
I’m a first generation American. Parents and grandparents came from an eastern Euro country. Perhaps that was a mistake seeing the way things have been going in the U.S. in recent decades.
Thanks for translating. Ok, I agree too. And they don’t put up with promoting homosexuality to children.
Is it not normal? Seems to me about as normal a human behavior as breathing. If you know history, it is practically universal. Only in recent years have people begun to believe anything else.
But why do they believe things that go against everything we know about history and human nature? Was it their idea? Or was it someone else's idea that was beat into their heads practically from birth?
Normal vs morally sound are two different things. Telling someone "stay of of my country" while you yourself are in immigrant is morally unsound. It is hypocritical. I don't care "how normal" it is.
Normal vs morally sound are two different things. Telling someone "stay of of my country" while you yourself are in immigrant is morally unsound.
What makes it immoral? Because it is hypocritical? Is hypocrisy immoral?
You could argue that it is immoral because it is selfish. Immoral behavior is always selfish behavior. But if it is immoral because it is selfish, then whether it is hypocritical doesn't matter. But if not wanting to share your country with other people is selfish, then why have borders at all?
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Well, I'll put it this way. I'm far more free today than I would have been back in 1961. Freedom and my prosperity are important to me. Whatever downsides there have been, well, I look at it like this. I would rather live in 2021 than 1961. I was born into a solid, two parent home in 1986. Born into a middle class home. I'm college educated. So is my father. I can't think of any reason to want to live in the pre-Civil Rights Act days.
I’ve always suspected you were raised right by good parents based on your posts. But I think you would agree you are in the small percentage of black people who are excelling in this culture. The vast majority are being raised in single parent households, taught no values and without any positive male role models. It’s a disaster by any measure and a complete failure.
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