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Old 05-21-2021, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Japan
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Originally Posted by Werone View Post
Most people visually group others into preconceived notions of race...
...and can do so accurately, in a way that corresponds with the person's ancestry and genetics.

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It's just dumb. How can you like the concept of race?
Dumb, is the assumption that there are no important differences among population groups, and therefore all differences in outcome must be due to injustice.

 
Old 05-21-2021, 02:30 AM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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Real issue here in the Bay Area with all the Anti-Asian crimes because a lot of it is coming from blacks which the media doesn't want to report. So is that black privilege?
 
Old 05-21-2021, 02:59 AM
 
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Which "group" actually has privilege in our country?

1) Privilege is wearing $200 sneakers when you’ve never had a job.

2) Privilege is wearing $300 Beats headphones while living on public assistance.

3) Privilege is having a Smartphone with a data plan, which you receive no bill for.

4) Privilege is living in public subsidized housing where you don’t have a utility or phone bill and, where rising property taxes, rents and energy costs have absolutely no effect on the amount of food you can put on your table; food that is largely covered by Government Food Stamps anyway.

5) Privilege is having free health insurance for you and your family that's paid for by working taxpayers who often can't afford proper health coverage for their own families.

6) Privilege is having multiple national organizations promoting and protecting just your race alone -- that are subsidized by federal tax dollars.

7) Privilege is having access to a national college fund that supports only your race.

8) Privilege is having a television network that supports only one race.

9) Privilege is having most of the media news networks refuse to cover incidents wherein one race that is 13% of the population commits 50% of the crimes.

10) Privilege is the ability to go march against, and protest against anything that triggers you, without worrying about calling off from work and the consequences that accompany such.

11) Privilege is having as many children as you want, regardless of your employment status, and be able to send them off to daycare or pre-school you don’t pay for.

12) Privilege is being able to vote in many states without showing a driver's license, voter ID card or other credentials -- just because your race claims they should be exempt from such requirements.

13) Privilege is having an actual written law (Affirmative Action) that requires people in your race get picked first for municipal employment, or college admissions; often with lower examination scores.

14) Privilege is being able to riot, loot, commit arson and tear down historic monuments without consequences -- just because you don't like folks such as Columbus, Ulysses S. Grant or, even Lincoln.

15) Privilege is having most of your life paid for by the working men and women who DO have to deal with rising taxes and costs; by those you now call “privileged”.

16) Privilege is a government claiming your group cannot be racist no matter how obvious it is that your crimes were racially motivated.

17) Privilege is when your actual crimes are prosecuted with less intensity than the mere words of another race.
 
Old 05-21-2021, 03:21 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Brilliant post, FuriousMaximum. Perfect analysis. Thank you!
 
Old 05-21-2021, 04:44 AM
 
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Which "group" actually has privilege in our country?

1) Privilege is wearing $200 sneakers when you’ve never had a job.

2) Privilege is wearing $300 Beats headphones while living on public assistance.

3) Privilege is having a Smartphone with a data plan, which you receive no bill for.

4) Privilege is living in public subsidized housing where you don’t have a utility or phone bill and, where rising property taxes, rents and energy costs have absolutely no effect on the amount of food you can put on your table; food that is largely covered by Government Food Stamps anyway.

5) Privilege is having free health insurance for you and your family that's paid for by working taxpayers who often can't afford proper health coverage for their own families.

6) Privilege is having multiple national organizations promoting and protecting just your race alone -- that are subsidized by federal tax dollars.

7) Privilege is having access to a national college fund that supports only your race.

8) Privilege is having a television network that supports only one race.

9) Privilege is having most of the media news networks refuse to cover incidents wherein one race that is 13% of the population commits 50% of the crimes.

10) Privilege is the ability to go march against, and protest against anything that triggers you, without worrying about calling off from work and the consequences that accompany such.

11) Privilege is having as many children as you want, regardless of your employment status, and be able to send them off to daycare or pre-school you don’t pay for.

12) Privilege is being able to vote in many states without showing a driver's license, voter ID card or other credentials -- just because your race claims they should be exempt from such requirements.

13) Privilege is having an actual written law (Affirmative Action) that requires people in your race get picked first for municipal employment, or college admissions; often with lower examination scores.

14) Privilege is being able to riot, loot, commit arson and tear down historic monuments without consequences -- just because you don't like folks such as Columbus, Ulysses S. Grant or, even Lincoln.

15) Privilege is having most of your life paid for by the working men and women who DO have to deal with rising taxes and costs; by those you now call “privileged”.

16) Privilege is a government claiming your group cannot be racist no matter how obvious it is that your crimes were racially motivated.

17) Privilege is when your actual crimes are prosecuted with less intensity than the mere words of another race.
BRAVO! Well done.
 
Old 05-21-2021, 09:27 AM
 
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Of course, it has a scientific basis. The notion that it doesn't is just dumb.
Race? So tell me what is race? What is it based on. Where's your reference?
 
Old 05-21-2021, 09:30 AM
 
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Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment View Post
...and can do so accurately, in a way that corresponds with the person's ancestry and genetics.


Dumb, is the assumption that there are no important differences among population groups, and therefore all differences in outcome must be due to injustice.
Where's your science reference. Are there pure races? What does a pure race even mean?

No one is talking about injustice, but maybe that's your argument and not the scientific significance of race, a concept that has no scientific basis.

“The science of genetics demonstrates that humans cannot be divided into biologically distinct subcategories”; and it “challenges the traditional concept of different races of humans as biologically separate and distinct. This is validated by many decades of research.” In other words, “race itself is a social construct,” with no biological basis. From Scientific American - The Concept of “Race” Is a Lie Even the Ancient Greeks knew it

Last edited by Werone; 05-21-2021 at 09:45 AM..
 
Old 05-21-2021, 09:31 AM
 
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How about two black juveniles who killed a Uber Eats Driver in Washington DC who got off with nothing more than probation, that's what I thought.
Amen
 
Old 05-21-2021, 09:33 AM
 
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Originally Posted by FuriousMaximum View Post
Which "group" actually has privilege in our country?

1) Privilege is wearing $200 sneakers when you’ve never had a job.

2) Privilege is wearing $300 Beats headphones while living on public assistance.

3) Privilege is having a Smartphone with a data plan, which you receive no bill for.

4) Privilege is living in public subsidized housing where you don’t have a utility or phone bill and, where rising property taxes, rents and energy costs have absolutely no effect on the amount of food you can put on your table; food that is largely covered by Government Food Stamps anyway.

5) Privilege is having free health insurance for you and your family that's paid for by working taxpayers who often can't afford proper health coverage for their own families.

6) Privilege is having multiple national organizations promoting and protecting just your race alone -- that are subsidized by federal tax dollars.

7) Privilege is having access to a national college fund that supports only your race.

8) Privilege is having a television network that supports only one race.

9) Privilege is having most of the media news networks refuse to cover incidents wherein one race that is 13% of the population commits 50% of the crimes.

10) Privilege is the ability to go march against, and protest against anything that triggers you, without worrying about calling off from work and the consequences that accompany such.

11) Privilege is having as many children as you want, regardless of your employment status, and be able to send them off to daycare or pre-school you don’t pay for.

12) Privilege is being able to vote in many states without showing a driver's license, voter ID card or other credentials -- just because your race claims they should be exempt from such requirements.

13) Privilege is having an actual written law (Affirmative Action) that requires people in your race get picked first for municipal employment, or college admissions; often with lower examination scores.

14) Privilege is being able to riot, loot, commit arson and tear down historic monuments without consequences -- just because you don't like folks such as Columbus, Ulysses S. Grant or, even Lincoln.

15) Privilege is having most of your life paid for by the working men and women who DO have to deal with rising taxes and costs; by those you now call “privileged”.

16) Privilege is a government claiming your group cannot be racist no matter how obvious it is that your crimes were racially motivated.

17) Privilege is when your actual crimes are prosecuted with less intensity than the mere words of another race.

Inequality is part of the human domain. It is an impossible task to have equality of outcome.
 
Old 05-21-2021, 10:02 AM
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FuriousMaximum View Post
Which "group" actually has privilege in our country?

1) Privilege is wearing $200 sneakers when you’ve never had a job.

2) Privilege is wearing $300 Beats headphones while living on public assistance.

3) Privilege is having a Smartphone with a data plan, which you receive no bill for.

4) Privilege is living in public subsidized housing where you don’t have a utility or phone bill and, where rising property taxes, rents and energy costs have absolutely no effect on the amount of food you can put on your table; food that is largely covered by Government Food Stamps anyway.

5) Privilege is having free health insurance for you and your family that's paid for by working taxpayers who often can't afford proper health coverage for their own families.

6) Privilege is having multiple national organizations promoting and protecting just your race alone -- that are subsidized by federal tax dollars.

7) Privilege is having access to a national college fund that supports only your race.

8) Privilege is having a television network that supports only one race.

9) Privilege is having most of the media news networks refuse to cover incidents wherein one race that is 13% of the population commits 50% of the crimes.

10) Privilege is the ability to go march against, and protest against anything that triggers you, without worrying about calling off from work and the consequences that accompany such.

11) Privilege is having as many children as you want, regardless of your employment status, and be able to send them off to daycare or pre-school you don’t pay for.

12) Privilege is being able to vote in many states without showing a driver's license, voter ID card or other credentials -- just because your race claims they should be exempt from such requirements.

13) Privilege is having an actual written law (Affirmative Action) that requires people in your race get picked first for municipal employment, or college admissions; often with lower examination scores.

14) Privilege is being able to riot, loot, commit arson and tear down historic monuments without consequences -- just because you don't like folks such as Columbus, Ulysses S. Grant or, even Lincoln.

15) Privilege is having most of your life paid for by the working men and women who DO have to deal with rising taxes and costs; by those you now call “privileged”.

16) Privilege is a government claiming your group cannot be racist no matter how obvious it is that your crimes were racially motivated.

17) Privilege is when your actual crimes are prosecuted with less intensity than the mere words of another race.
1.) How do you know they’ve never had a job? Do you know them personally?

2.) How do you know they are living on public assistance? Again, that raises the question do you know them personally.

They could have brought headphones before they went on public assistance.

3.) If you think every black person gets a free smartphone, free housing, and free college, yes you are racist.

4.) if you think every black person gets free housing, yes you are racist.

5.) You can just say you don’t want your tax dollars going to poor black people. A lot of black people are smart enough to see through your argument, but I’m sure you think you have people fooled.

6.) These organizations were created because of segregation or black people not being able to join.

7.) again these organizations and funds were created out of disadvantages or legalized segregation.

8.) Perhaps if there was no segregation in the first place they wouldn’t have to create black television channels.

9.) I think most people know that most street crime in urban areas are committed by underclass blacks and to a certain degree Latinos. And these stories get lots of coverage.

10.) Yes but I guarantee you won’t call capitol rioters privileged.

11.) if you can’t mention welfare or multiple children you can’t afford without thinking about blacks you are racist.

12.) This has nothing to do with privilege. Its another topic for another time and definitely should not be only seen through the lens of race. If you think it only applies to black people then yea you’re probably racist.

13.) Affirmative action isn’t a law. And no it wasn’t intended to be a remedy or reparations for slavery. I’ll end it here because I’m confused on this one.

14.) Yes, as if white people never rioted. And those statues weren’t put up just to preserve history. They had other intentions behind them.

15.) You honestly probably think every black person is on welfare.

16.) Blacks can be racist yes. But that racism or prejudice usually doesn’t decide where you as a white person can live, work, go to school, or own property.

There are sane, logical, and thinking people of all races who can tackle all of your arguments one by one
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