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There is nothing to overturn. Media announcement does not official make.
For crying out loud. Do you even understand how the election process is usually handled. Electors don't just pass their votes to whoever they want. It's always who wins the state gets the elector votes. Suggesting otherwise is undemocratic and UNAMERICAN.
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Why are libs against investigation on voter frauds? Let it play out and allow the court to decide.
I mean, democrats spent $35M to investigate the russian hoax
And Trump behaving despicably in Helsinki, publicly coming out with 'Russia. if you're listening ...', and offering Putin help fighting wildfires while telling Americans to pound salt points to there being some unexplored Russian ties.
The fraud was carried out via multiple avenues, but all will be reversed.
In the end, Trump will win a second term and the dems will have to face the hard facts that their party attempted the grandest voter fraud endeavor in US history and participated in the first attempted political coup in US history.
The fraud was grand in scale, which is what led to it being detected so easily. One would assume that the dems were SHOCKED at how large of lead Trump had and did not envision they would need such a massive fraud effort. Had they known that up front, I'm sure they would have called it off, as even they would understand that they would get caught.
Even as we speak, the DNC is trying to cover its tracks and arranging scapegoats to take the fall. The court system will be trying to unravel all the principals in this for the next few years. Ultimately, SOMEONE will rat out the planners and turn state's witness.
It will make for entertaining tv over the next few years. I wonder if any of the networks will cover it, or will still be clinging to the narrative "Joe Biden won" even when Trump is in office and the election fraud conspirators are standing trial?
There's no fraud and nothing is being reversed. Trump's trumped up fraud allegations have no proof. You know you need proof don't you? You know you need evidence right? I know the law must be really hard to understand. But this isn't North Korea. You really have a problem with democracy don't you.
But would Biden or anybody else have done any better? I don't think so. Certainly not Biden - he called Trump racist and xenophobic for stopping flights from and to China, the centroid of the virus. Pelosi said it was a bunch of poppycock and told people to come to China Town. And look what the governors of New York and New Jersey did. There are probably some things Trump could have done better in hindsight - but would Hillary or anybody else have done better under the same circumstances at the same time? Hard to say, but I doubt it.
Hillary ("or anybody else" who was competent) would not have trashed the pandemic plan created under George W. Bush and retained by Obama for just such a time as this. More likely she would have used executive orders to distribute testing nation-wide, along with a supply of masks for everyone at the beginning - remember how we had to scramble to find masks, and how YouTube was filled with videos about how to make your own??
She would have closed schools, churches, restaurants, gyms, theaters, stadiums and other places where people habitually gather, and exerted more care of the pitiful state of nursing homes. Hospitals would have received the latest, most accurate information, and their staffs would receive bonuses. Money for heads of households and individuals would have been distributed sooner rather than later. Buying food and other items would immediately change to pick up or delivery only for those at highest risk. Time and energy would not have been wasted in fruitless finger-pointing and grand-standing.
Most of all, Hillary (or any other competent adult) would not have gotten fidgety when presented with the latest facts and figures, since she has a normal attention span and is not easily bored, certainly not by the real-life tragedy we're enduring now. She would have used her background in health services at the state level (Arkansas, when as First Lady, Hillary Clinton was heavily involved in children's health and education issues) to coordinate services and make them work better.
One would assume that the dems were SHOCKED at how large of lead Trump had and did not envision they would need such a massive fraud effort. ...
This is a SHOCKINGLY stupid comment. Well beneath you.
The massive 'lead' never existed. It was an illusion, directly a result of holding up the mail-in ballots (an issue which was anticipated and debated in the legislature, but the Republican dominated PA state legislature refused to allow the counting of mail-in ballots before election day, so they were held up just the same) until the close of the polls. You know this, why you persist in disseminating these fantasies is beyond me.
This is an artificially created crises, with artificially created allegations.
Folks, Trump can still win. Let's say that, after he wins back some votes in these questioned states, that the Electoral count gets tied at 269. If you get that situation, then the vote for the presidency goes to the House, where they'll have delegates from each state to place a vote. Each state would get one vote.
Oh, and also, thirty-one of those states are run by Republicans, which means Trump could easily get elected that way. Plugs wouldn't stand a chance there, and leftists everywhere have reason to be nervous.
You really have a problem with democracy don't you?
Is Fox the media you mistrust too since Fox called it for Biden? According to your reasoning, we don’t need to have an election at all, just take China ccp for clue? Man, you are US educated!
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009
Watching media sources and listening to many people on this forum, it is somewhat shocking to hear the people who are absolutely convinced that Joe Biden won the presidential election and will take office in January.
That is never happening. Currently, despite what the media and liberals think, plans are set for a recount starting Nov 15th after the "final" results are verified from the precincts. After that, the recounts and elimination of fraudulent ballots begins.
This is in the hands of the state legislatures (republican) and the Supreme Court (republican). Trump is the guaranteed winner and Joe will never be president. When this becomes a reality, dems will be shocked and outraged. They will claim the election has been "stolen" from Biden, when in fact that opposite was attempted.
Even when those responsible are tried and prosecuted, the dems will never admit the fraud.
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