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Old 10-04-2020, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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The mainstream media abandon journalism. What they are doing now is pushing propaganda and narratives.
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Old 10-04-2020, 07:50 AM
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The mainstream media abandon journalism. What they are doing now is pushing propaganda and narratives.
Exactly. They've always been left, but only turned to propaganda in the last 12 years.

I don't know whether Obama scared them into kissing his feet by excluding those who didn't tow the line or if they just gradually shifted to propaganda. Then they abandoned all principles the last 4 years.

I remember a freshman English class in the 70s. TA asked us all to tell what our major was and why we chose it. Journalism major stood up and said she chose journalism because she wanted to manipulate people's opinions. It was chilling.
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Old 10-04-2020, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The problem is the mass media outlets are owned by rich people that are firm Democrats with a far Left agenda and they all hate Trump.



The media has waged an all out war on Trump since day one. The media forms public opinion and it is all negative. The media did the opposite when reporting on all things Obama.


It is disgusting what they are doing.



The only good thing about a Biden win is the media will be reporting how amazing everything is and they will be lying through their teeth.
They don't realize that if Biden or any socialist thinker and doer gets into the White House eventually the media will hurt themselves If the media dare print or speak out on one negative thing that Biden did no matter how much it hurts the country the Biden administration will take the road of authoritarianism and shut it down.



Trump never shut one paper, one news source down no matter how fake and outrageous they got with their lies and bias. This is because Trump is for freedom even when they abuse their power with lies and brainwashing. He tells people that it is fake news because it is..



the MSM talks about Trump saying that the KKK is fine people and they know in that statement Trump denounced the KKK and Antifa and went on to say that the regular Americans whether democrat or republican that were attending the park were fine people who protested peacefully who were exercising their Constitutional rights to demonstrate. this is how the left operates with no truth at all. This is why I see it as fake news because I dig deeper.
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Old 10-04-2020, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Trump opens his mouth and lies fly out until he shuts it
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Old 10-04-2020, 12:25 PM
 
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Sounds to me like I should REALLY trust the media entirely then.
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Old 10-04-2020, 12:26 PM
 
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The mainstream media abandon journalism. What they are doing now is pushing propaganda and narratives.
Including all conservative outlets?
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Old 10-11-2020, 02:42 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I was just reading a detailed article on how the mainstream media are being abused by secret services and fake NGOs to spread propaganda and lies. In this case it is about the anti-Syrian propaganda, but it applies to China and other cases as well, of course. The article is based on secret documents that were stolen by hackers from the British government and intelligence community.

https://thegrayzone.com/2020/09/23/s...osition-media/

From the link:

"ARK (a propaganda organization) emphasized that it had “well-established contacts” with some of the top media outlets in the world, naming Reuters, the New York Times, CNN, the BBC, The Guardian, the Financial Times, The Times, Al Jazeera, Sky News Arabic, Orient TV, and Al Arabiya."
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Old 10-11-2020, 03:03 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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A healthy bit of skepticism in evaluating any media coverage is a good thing. A good story covers the "5 Ws" thoroughly and accurately. The greatest risk for bias is in the last "W", the why.

Mainstream media typically does a good job with the first 4 "Ws" but the 5th "W", the "why", is much more subject to personal biases in how it's reported and the perspective of the reporter and their bosses. That would also be the case if you add the "how", which is subject at higher risk for the introduction of bias.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Ws

With that said, a bigger problem is when people get frustrated with that, usually because the mainstream media isn't part of the echo chamber they're comfortable in, and turn to media that doesn't even cover the other 4 "Ws" properly and can't even get the most basic facts correct or purposefully misrepresent them.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fake-news/

Notice how even the titles of the sources shout a loud emotional agenda in who they're appealing to?
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Old 10-11-2020, 04:40 PM
 
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... A perfect example is attacking Trump's character for not paying taxes. They call it taking advantage....
You don't think tax cheating is wrong?
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Old 10-11-2020, 05:05 PM
 
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Sounds to me like I should REALLY trust the media entirely then.
Why am I not surprised that you would say that.

Think for yourself, especially when the media contradicts itself.
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